The Queen in Westminster Hall

Lord Norton

To mark her Diamond Jubilee, the Queen yesterday addressed members of both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall.  Her speech was short, well judged and well received.  There was something of a dig at the sheer volume of legislation that is enacted: “The happy relationship I have enjoyed with Parliament has extended well beyond the more than three and a half thousand Bills I have signed into law”.    It was a timely reminder of just how much legislation is enacted.

The speech was ideal for the occasion and there was a good feel to the whole ceremony.  It was the usual pomp and pageantry, but without being over the top.  Indeed, the thing that struck me about the day was that it was otherwise just a normal day – in so far as there is such a thing in Parliament.  There was not all the security and changes that accompany State Opening.  Traffic continued flowing, there wasn’t the closure of the car park or additional street barriers.  After the ceremony, there was a reception in the Royal Gallery, but once that was over – and the Queen and Prince Philip had gone down in the lift to be driven off – we reverted to normal: the House met half-an-hour later than usual, but otherwise it was business as usual.  

It was a great occasion without being extravagant, which I suspect was how the Queen wanted it.

18 comments for “The Queen in Westminster Hall

  1. MilesJSD
    22/03/2012 at 4:12 am

    Lord Norton found there to be “a good feel to the whole ceremony”.
    Acceptable Altered-State-Of-Consciousness ?

    One still sits at one’s hacker-inundated computer
    having to rely on seriously leaderful non-fiction books for one’s health, personal-assurance, ‘mind-food’, and ‘sanity’.

    There is a small but very telling sub-heading in one such ‘self-help’ book:
    “Wrong Habits That Feel So Right”.
    There was a much earlier self-help masterpiece, profession-supportive, too:
    “Your Body: biofeedback at its best without instruments” by Beata Jencks
    who distinguishes between (and from which one should ‘naturally’ take warning)
    Normal States of Conscousness and Altered States Of Consciousness (ASCs or more ‘correctly’ ASsC).

    A clear instance of ASsC arises in the Public Ceremony, especially in deliberately spectacular and emotively-strong State, Political, Marketeering, or Religious ceremonies and shows.

    So, however “unprepossessing” and “of The People” Her Majesty’s sociological, political, psychological, and Establishmentarian advisers have
    persuaded her to come across as,
    there will always have to be that deliberate subliminal ‘hypnotising’ of the audience, and of the whole Nation of People, into an Altered-State-Of-Consciousness.

    Parliament appears to have been God-Blessed indeed that such A-S-C-ing was in this instance carefully ‘minimised’.

  2. Tory Boy
    22/03/2012 at 10:03 am

    Lord Norton I do quite agree with everything you put in your blog. However the Lords Speaker made a good understanding speech. Mr Speaker made a below par speech.

  3. maude elwes
    22/03/2012 at 10:21 am

    I heard that Bercow, Commons Speaker, referred to her as a kalaidescope Queen. As she rules over gays and colourful diversity.

    I bet HM loved that reference. So dignified.

  4. Gareth Howell
    22/03/2012 at 2:12 pm

    She mentioned

    “those who would prefer an elected head of state”,

    which was wise.

    It may happen soon enough.

    • maude elwes
      22/03/2012 at 3:18 pm

      @Gareth H:

      For her it’s too late. She will, sadly, never know what it is to be free. As she said in one of her biography snippets, after attending a banquet of State, ‘what a life.’

      With grace, perhaps her children or grandchildren, may be free.

      • MilesJSD
        23/03/2012 at 6:02 am

        They’ve certainly being many times over-paid-for !
        and that comment being relevantly sustain-worthy, I claim “grace” for it, too.

      • MilesJSD
        28/03/2012 at 10:56 pm

        Maude’s “She will, sadly, never know what it is to be free.”

        I believe that almost every-one in Britiain, certainly including Elizabeth II, is ‘free’

        free that is to buy
        “Awareness Through Movement” by Moshe Feldenkrais
        and to read the introductory pages where he throws considerable light, and self-rescue instructions, pertaining to the various “Masks” we occasion-ally, or always, have to be “wearing”.

  5. Gareth Howell
    23/03/2012 at 7:09 am

    The royal prerogative which was fairly reduced during the days of the Labour government is being clawed back at a rate of knots.

    After the comment I have made somebody will certainly come up to me in the street, and ask me “whst I have got against the Queen” which is a fiddlelesticks question.

    Since my days in the ‘Dilly, when I was very fond of Brenda’s Ma, I am still keen on Brenda and Phil. They are a marvellous couple
    and have always set a very good example.

    There is absolutely no reason for there not to be an elected head of state except for one
    thing; Brenda’s purse.

    In the context of a the queen’s visit to parliament, MPs have to sign the oath of allegiance, but that could equally well be to an elected head, or heads of state, to the “Patrie” not to the “Crown”.

    Landed estates are not affected. Pillaging of the treasury purse either by the directors of it,(MPS) some of whom have recently been locked up for it, or by the chairman, to the tune of £4m a year in expenses, is not good.

    An elected president would be better, in an orderly transition of power.

  6. Chris K
    24/03/2012 at 1:50 am

    Lord Norton, do you know who the surprised peer was who called the lift only for it to open containing HM?

    • Lord Norton
      Lord Norton
      27/03/2012 at 12:58 pm

      Chris K: Not yet!

  7. Gar Howell
    24/03/2012 at 6:09 pm

    That should read £4m EXTRA per year.
    The Chairman being Brenda.

  8. Gar Howell
    26/03/2012 at 6:40 pm

    I don’t know what it is about my peregrinations in local town shop centres that causes me to meet the great and good ladies that I do.

    The Late Lavinia, duchess of Norfolk was regularly greeted by me in the 80s and 90s,in Sussex, and now in Darzet here I have the tremendous pleasure of greeting the young Countess of **ch**ter,(Dorset) such an exceptionally beautiful Woman, I hardly know which way to turn!

  9. maude elwes
    27/03/2012 at 10:07 am

    One abusolutely undeniable fact is, whilst we have a monarchy, and the offshoot of that, the aristocracy, there can be no such thing as equality.

    You cannot be born equal in any society that has a ruling elite in place from their birth.

    And what follows with that is, secrecy, covert and subtle machinations, carried on without one word to those who foot the bill for this insult, us. Ad this to the cheek of government telling us they are going to work it so we have more transparency and openess in society is laughable.

    Don’t forget at the same time as spouting this nonsense in our daily beasts, they are preposing secret courts, because the Americans don’t like the idea of revellation in court of their underhand tactics when dealing with the public. The CIA deciding on who is best for our leadership now and in the future ensured subservience.

    The preparation, with American consent, as to who and which party leader we will settle for, is, according to Mckenzie in a newspaper clip, as they did with Obama. We the voters are what is termed patsy’s or muppets, ready to believe anything.

    Hence the ‘rich get richer and the poor have children.’ F. Scot Fitzgerald, in The Great Gatsby.

    Which of course is why our politicians, across the board, court the wealthy socially, as they are the source of their personal success or demise.

    Their attitued being, must have more hidden than the muppets have any right know. They wouldn’t know what to do with it, should we enlighten them. And that would be a burden to the little people, wouldn’t it?

  10. Gar Howell
    27/03/2012 at 5:57 pm

    One abusolutely undeniable fact is, whilst we have a monarchy, and the offshoot of that, the aristocracy, there can be no such thing as equality.

    The Hansard Society was founded at a time when communism, ie the Compulsory Cooperative was at its zenith in the 1930s. There was an understanding then that the one party state was a kind of democracy, which is now accepted that it is not.

    Equality is not something that English political philosophy concerned itself with until fairly recently, although the concept of equality now has ramifications in so many walks of life that it can not be ignored.

    In politics it was the rallying cry of REPUBLICAN revolutionary France, “Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!” even in the 1790s.

    In the 20thc/21stC it is one of the rallying cries of the ICHR (International convention on Human rights) and one of the clauses of it, is that pluralism, ie multi party democracy, shall more clearly define its meaning.

    I accept that definition without equivocation,(there are some Marxists/ Revolutionary socialists about who do not, but they are eccentric and few and far between)

    To suppose that Hansard society members are in the least bit interested in “Equality” in the old sense, is a mistake.

    Elitism, aristocracy, monarchy,were all apparently under threat from a single party democracy which claimed to offer equal rights to all.

    We now have voluntary cooperatives worldwide,
    in place of the compulsory ones and it is said that 1 person in 6 is at some time in life a mmeber of one.

    Regrettably this also includes vast number of Farmers who find that the voluntary cooperative way of doing business, is the best one for them!! Those farmers may well be…… elitists, aristocrats, monarchists, and even princes of these islands. It is a favoured form of agricultural management in much of the USA.

    Thus while equality plays no part in people’s lives at some times, it does at others, so to have a balanced view, the kind of equality you are refering to should be examined more closely!

    • MilesJSD
      28/03/2012 at 6:28 am

      The too-difficult overarching and underlying topic-areas, that need scrutiny and peaceful-resolution if we as Human Race are to “make good” in the longest-term. are
      “Civilisation’s Unnatural Inequality versus Evolution’s Natural Fallibility –
      (1) Extrinsicly
      (2) Intrinsicly.”

      It is both grossly un-natural and obscenely un-equal of any civilisation-enabled human-being to give or draw from the Common Purse & Common Environment more than one-human-living.
      One could even name it as a form of ‘intestinal-infortitude’

      The more human-livings God’s and Civilisation’s Law and Practice allows to both ‘Privilieged’- Communities and ‘Privileged’-Individuals, the more impaired and “unfit for Purpose” do those over-consumers, and the whole downwards Sociological-Pyrmid of Peoples, become.

      There is a real factor that increasingly impairs the human-mind-body-spirit’s functioning when “individuals”, “sets”, “classes”, and “communities” are given excess of “creature comforts”, “royal prerogatives”, and “private rights and ownerships”, and “decent lifestyles”,

      Lord Norton remembers Dr Joad’s highly-successful and educative injuncturing on the BBC “Brains Trust”:
      “It all depends what you mean by “Equality””.
      The only truly workable, and longterm governance supportive methodology for Equality* appears to be a combination of
      (1) Self-Aware Individual Human Development
      using such individual-educational sources as
      (a) “Awareness Through Movement” (Feldenfrais);
      (b) “Effort” (Laban & Lawrence);
      (c) “Wisdom of the Body Moving” (Hartley);
      (d) “Mindfulness” Prof Mark Williams;

      (2) Cooperative-Community-Thinking, Planning, and Implementation:
      (e) “Leader/Teacher/Parent Effective Training” – Method III Cooperative Problem Solving (Dr Thomas Gordon) (print-out a 5-step Guideline from or );
      (f) “The Decision Book – fifty models for strategic thinking” (Mikael Krogerus & Roman Tschappeler).

      and many “one liner” practical-know-hows, such as from
      .g) “Edward de Bono’s Thinking Course” –
      (‘) Emotion is the essential basis, but only when formulating your final decision; so you must get all the information and facts together, sorted, and through the discussion stages before allowing emotion to ‘take over’(‘)
      (h) “The Junior Officers’ Reading Club” (Captain Patrick Hennessy, Grenadier Guards retired) –
      (‘) Whilst we yearned to form and develop this “all-reading-from-the-same-skilling-book-at-the-same-time Reading-Club”,
      the prevailing reality on-the-ground, in peacetime-barracks as well as out under hot-fire from the Enemy, is that you are a lone reader,
      and often not even sure anyone-else-in-the-whole-world is ever going to be reading from this same essential book(‘).

  11. Twm Or' Nant
    28/03/2012 at 2:40 pm

    name it as a form of ‘intestinal-infortitude’

    Or verbal diahorroea.

    Doctor heal thyself!

  12. Twm O'r Nant
    28/03/2012 at 7:14 pm

    The staff of Paternoster stores owned directly by the queen, which used to be called Woolworth’s, closed down and reopened in another name about 3 years ago, are all getting quite enthusiastic about the Jubilee.
    Why not?

    • maude elwes
      29/03/2012 at 11:58 am

      The Monarchy is deeply invested in wind farms and many other forms that necessity forces the public to purchase.

      Woolworths is likely to be renamed Poundland, which then leads one to the answer of why they are springing up all over the place, against the will of many. Making someone very rich indeed.

      Equality only sounds good when politics and politicians want to sell the voter on the idea of modern slavery. All are equal to share in our workload. And the less you get paid the more equal you become.

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