Detaining children prior to deportation

Lord Soley

This is an emotive topic and rightly so. I put my supplementary question to Baroness Neville-Jones because both the Liberal democrats and the Conservatives were promising to stop this practice before the election. In fact it is very difficult unless you are prepared to take children into care when they are abandoned here by the parents.

 I can’t remember the exact figures but when I was the MP in Hammersmith we had over 100 children in schools that had been abandoned here or sent here as unaccompanied refugees. We tend to underestimate how important education is seen in developing countries – especially an education in the UK.

 So we either allow anyone who has lost a legal appeal to stay in the UK or we deport and prior to that deportation taking place we hold them in a secure setting. (Note Jeff Rooker’s comments on this in the same question.)

4 comments for “Detaining children prior to deportation

  1. Gareth Howell
    13/10/2010 at 9:29 am

    “we had over 100 children in schools that had been abandoned here or sent here as unaccompanied refugees”

    Gone to boarding school in England?

    Does the Immigration authority take the view that if they have been sent casually, then they must be taken into care, regardless then
    they can not return them to their country of origin casually?

    I wonder what would be the outcome if they were returned casually?

    Not today thank you!

    It would take a particularly hard headed Home office official to do the returning.

  2. 13/10/2010 at 1:13 pm

    We deport too many damned people, that is the problem.

    That we end up having to lock up children in order to keep our deportation system ticking over is a symptom of a greater ill, not an unfortunate side effect of our virtue!

    • Gareth Howell
      13/10/2010 at 5:57 pm

      One thing about children is that they are far more likely to be valuable citizens in the future than a liability soonest, as somebody in his 40’s or 50s might well be.

  3. 16/10/2010 at 12:25 am

    The primary care provided to anyone being detained should be not simply natural-health supportive but natural-health forward-educative* too.

    The foundation-material* needs to be holiticly-supportive & further-educative: it does not need to be reductively ‘fitness-training’ nor in any sense ‘indoctrinating’.

    That is both a Natural and a Civilised need, and therefore should be high on the list of Human-Rights.
    * Holistic Material Sources:
    “Holistic Living” (Pietroni);
    “Wisdom of the Body Moving” (Hartley);
    “The Centering Book” (Hendricks & Wills);
    “The Moving Center” (Hendricks & Hendricks);

    A Good Nutrition source (but as I recall there is a chapter on nutrition in Pietroni’s BHMA original “Holistic Living”).

    A good-communication & sound-reasoning source such as
    “A Rulebook for Srgumentation” (Weston 4th edition).

    This point needs to be seen against the bigger and ultimately human-race-saving backdrop of a much-needed worldwide Sustain-worthy-Culture. in which the English language already forms THE default basis !

    But the English culture that is feeding that world-wide sustain-worthy-ing work needs to be presenting an ever-clearer, cleaner, unambiguous and yet creativity-possible English language than it has been doing.

    Therefore not only care of our own but care of others, such as here of foreign children detainees, needs to be of a forward-orienting world-wide generic sustain-worthiness quality and quantity.

    Possibly the United Nations might either fund some of this in Britain, or set up a United Nations Detainee Centre in Britain and progressively in other Countries afroun d the world having such Problems.
    One such in Britain could possibly be best located somewhere on the coast nearish to London ?
    Thus could perhaps solve Britain’s two major problems of (1) Cost (2) Individual and Collecgive human-developmental care-quality.

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