Please support this protest

Lord Hylton

Sapatan Village near Semdinli, Hakkari Province, SE Turkey – This is a village of some 2000 people in SE Turkey, not far from the frontier.

One Turkish special operations police officer had been killed (probably by PKK insurgents) on or just before 6 August 2017. On that day, probably in the early morning, the whole village was raided by police. Most of the inhabitants were ordered into the village square. About 100 of them were then beaten, mostly with hoses. The victims included women and children. Some people were stabbed with skewers. Thirty-six persons were arrested and taken to the police station, where they suffered further torture. Many of those in the square were forced to lie face down for several hours. At the same time in the houses women were sexually abused.

When twenty people with wounds or scars on their bodies went to Semdinli Hospital, the doctor in charge refused to note their condition in an official report, and instead insulted the complainants in a racist manner.

On 9 August the local MP and his colleague from Bitlis went to Sapatan to take evidence, as no government official had visited the village. They interviewed many of the victims. When the MPs asked to meet the District Governor and the Public Prosecutor, they were refused. There has been no legal investigation so far. The Turkish Chief of Police spoke of an administrative enquiry, but also dismissed allegations of torture as “terrorist propaganda”.

The above appears to me to be an example of the brutal repression now conducted by the State in Turkey, and especially in remoter areas. Uninvolved civilians are made to suffer for attacks by armed insurgents. The violent methods used are either ignored or denied. May I urge you to raise conduct unworthy of a member of NATO and of other international groups at the highest possible level and in all available fora.  I’m sure you know that collective punishments are banned by international law.


6 comments for “Please support this protest

  1. maude elwes
    16/08/2017 at 8:05 pm

    I believe the uninvolved civilians of that country must become involved and do what all natives of a frozen culture have to do, and that is fight for what they want their country to be. It is their duty as well as their only route to freedom and democracy on their own terms. We can support them in their journey ‘from a distance’ but we cannot interfere in their emergence.

    Just as we in Europe had to fight throughout the ages for the deliverance we demanded. The gauntlet is the challenge posed by the holy grail. And men have to take their nation forward by facing it. Others can only stand and clap.

  2. 21/08/2017 at 9:10 am

    So it is still Human-Race-Civilisations and their Constitutional Governances that fail to maturely-develop each of its citizens or subjects –

    – both before and during a mere few of them being given weapons,
    ostensibly for “national defence”
    but resultin in legalised and unchecked “crimes against innocent and unaramed ‘uninvolved civilians’ ” ?

    Why don’t the Nations “governancially involve” every-body, anyway ?

    And (maude) is it only ‘men’ who must face our “enemies” ?

    And aren’t some of my previous submissions, including to other Peers’ posts, still of core-relevance,
    concerning overarching and underpinning faults and avoided or hidden greater causative Contexts also – ?
    but are still being ‘ignored’ – ?

  3. maude elwes
    22/08/2017 at 2:13 pm

    @ John Miles

    From my point of view, men are warriors. Nature has the male of the species equipped and tuned, both physically and mentally, to survive warfare. In general, women are less aggressive, less muscular, less excited by combat. And they are not suited to politically incorrect dogma.

    ‘every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except endless present in which party is always right.’

    George Orwell -1984

    • 24/08/2017 at 5:15 am

      Right – then let us be “birds-of-a-feather” —–>
      “trusting in God and keeping our powder dry” –

      lest we[too] become that other
      ‘human-“biologically-and-scientifically”-unfortunate that results from infringe-ing the “Law” :-
      “Keep Plucking Chickens Or Face Getting Sacked” ———>

      “Onwards the sailors cry …”.

      Kind regards to one and all;
      John Miles.

    • 04/09/2017 at 5:15 pm

      I think you have a ‘strategic’ brain, maude :
      but a few things that you say you believe, may need some more ‘light-of-day’ :-

      i.e. that “men are warriors” – that is only one of the male archetypes;

      and ‘Nature’ has NOT equipped men (nor women, nor indeed any bio-form on Earth) to survive machine-guns, bombs, shells, poisons, tanks and WsMD.

      Women are as “excitable” as men – it is also major biological ‘ingredient’ of every life-form- MRS GREN will confirm that for you.

      Women are not the only “big-party” to be “shunning poplitrics because it’s dogma is incorrect.
      {So is Economics dogma palpably faulty in its very-foundations [that “Earthlife is infinite; and is self-renewable(“)- but women are as ‘servile’ to that blind-incorrectness as are men].

      And there is more – {Oh so much more – maude} –
      e.g. “women own the oldest Trade in the world
      by means of which to fleshly-&-financially control Men and to keep large populations of men “relationships-undevelopable” –

      yet women refuse to establish NVQ-skilling sequences within that “Relationships” monopoly they hold sway over.

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