So David Cameron insists we won’t be paying anything to directly prop up the Euro – but we will pay into the IMF who will use it to prop up the Euro. Hmmm! Come back George Orwell – we need you!
Orwell knew exactly how government worked and why. Remember in 1984 the daily two minute hate of all the enemies of the State. One Emmanuel Goldstein took a lot of flack from the population of Oceania.
A great deal similar to the countries we must consent to bomb to smithereens today. And here we see we are being prepared for another attack on a country that the propaganda machines tells us are trying to make nuclear ‘weapons of mass destruction.’ Ring a bell does it?
And yet we are a country that cannot afford to look after our sick, pay pensions to those who have signed up for it, with their cash, and additionally cannot afford to keep people in work? Yet we can all line up to assist the ‘USA’ and its alter ego ‘Israel’ to obliterate the people of Iran who live by a different code of practice. Not our code, and not one we want to import here, but a code they have had for millenia.
We have become a killing machine for our U masters and to whom and for what? Does anyone know? And if you do, plese put me straight here.
We can afford foreign aid to country’s that are better off than we. Can afford to fill the coffers of despots, whilst our own people, who pay for it, are left to starve.
How long are we going to put up with this?
Gareth Howell
03/11/2011 at 6:45 pm
Cameron’s remarks on One O’clock Sophie’s news
was that the IMF would NOT be used for that purpose.
Be that as it may, may I just remark that Barroso’s contention that the end of Greece in the Euro, is also the end of Greece in the EU,must be the most ill considered remark he has made.
I cannot see any politically shrewd purpose in making it either. It is just not so!
Croft
04/11/2011 at 11:32 am
Really? Bouncing people into an in/out referendum (as was going to happen) rather than a much less winnable yes/no to the austerity package has obvious logic to it.
As to LS’s post well it’s correct to a point. Of course if we took part in the Euro bailout we would be paying twice (IMF/Eurobail) We can’t not pay into the IMF as we would lose our seat on the board.
But really I do think the whole argument is a bit rich LS, since Labour simultaneously keeps bleating on about the government engaging in the Euro crisis and showing leadership while simultaneously voting against the previous IMF loan to individual nations and perhaps will do so in the upcoming vote.
milesjsd
03/11/2011 at 10:24 pm
Someone please recommend one or two texts that will bring me up to the comprehension mark (no pun intended) for all this money-stuff, please ?
I am struggling GCSE-level brain, most of my waking time.
Gareth Howell
04/11/2011 at 5:27 pm
As long as you don’t have any money salted away Miles, the keywords would be money markets, options, futures, and anything else that Maude cares to chuck at you (with respect)
It is one vast gambler’s market at the moment, and commission men’s fortune.
Twm O'r Nant
04/11/2011 at 7:59 am
The Italians may, in their turn, trade in Spaghetti, a splendid currency if ever there was one.
The money traders and commission men would all go bancrupt, which would be ideal.
milesjsd
04/11/2011 at 8:29 pm
As I heard PM Cameron on TV News direct afew hours ago, he actually said that
any move to have the IMF shoring-up the Euro would be wrong, and Britain will not support it.
maude elwes
05/11/2011 at 5:15 pm
Of course you do all know the IMF is an American run concern. And the great Superstate decides where and how the money will be dished out. And by whom. Doesn’t it? (But who are the people behind this US managed concern?)
On top of that, you have to dance to their tune if you want to be bailed out. They were at the back of Greece being found solvent to join the Euro and the cause of the downfall of that same Euro. And they will be the ones who will plunder Europe as it goes into insolvency. Really, it’s the mortgage broker foreclosing, only on a bigger scale.
And now, who controls the IMF? Listen very carefully indeed to who is in control of the IMF. Forget the smokescreen of the ‘poor’ countries and instead think Europe and the UK who are now at the begging bowl of these money lenders.The rules were already set up to take all this into account. Now when you get loans from a bank, what do they take as security against their lending. Yes, collaterol. And what does Greece and the rest of Europe have as collateral?
Well see if you can find out! There is a challenge for you. I couldn’t find the absolute. I found a lot pointing the finger at ’13 families,’ that included the Rothschilds, the Rockerfellers, the Bush’s and the Windsors, and so on, but nothing concrete.
Orwell knew exactly how government worked and why. Remember in 1984 the daily two minute hate of all the enemies of the State. One Emmanuel Goldstein took a lot of flack from the population of Oceania.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate
A great deal similar to the countries we must consent to bomb to smithereens today. And here we see we are being prepared for another attack on a country that the propaganda machines tells us are trying to make nuclear ‘weapons of mass destruction.’ Ring a bell does it?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/uk-military-iran-attack-nuclear
And yet we are a country that cannot afford to look after our sick, pay pensions to those who have signed up for it, with their cash, and additionally cannot afford to keep people in work? Yet we can all line up to assist the ‘USA’ and its alter ego ‘Israel’ to obliterate the people of Iran who live by a different code of practice. Not our code, and not one we want to import here, but a code they have had for millenia.
We have become a killing machine for our U masters and to whom and for what? Does anyone know? And if you do, plese put me straight here.
We can afford foreign aid to country’s that are better off than we. Can afford to fill the coffers of despots, whilst our own people, who pay for it, are left to starve.
How long are we going to put up with this?
Cameron’s remarks on One O’clock Sophie’s news
was that the IMF would NOT be used for that purpose.
Be that as it may, may I just remark that Barroso’s contention that the end of Greece in the Euro, is also the end of Greece in the EU,must be the most ill considered remark he has made.
I cannot see any politically shrewd purpose in making it either. It is just not so!
Really? Bouncing people into an in/out referendum (as was going to happen) rather than a much less winnable yes/no to the austerity package has obvious logic to it.
As to LS’s post well it’s correct to a point. Of course if we took part in the Euro bailout we would be paying twice (IMF/Eurobail) We can’t not pay into the IMF as we would lose our seat on the board.
But really I do think the whole argument is a bit rich LS, since Labour simultaneously keeps bleating on about the government engaging in the Euro crisis and showing leadership while simultaneously voting against the previous IMF loan to individual nations and perhaps will do so in the upcoming vote.
Someone please recommend one or two texts that will bring me up to the comprehension mark (no pun intended) for all this money-stuff, please ?
I am struggling GCSE-level brain, most of my waking time.
As long as you don’t have any money salted away Miles, the keywords would be money markets, options, futures, and anything else that Maude cares to chuck at you (with respect)
It is one vast gambler’s market at the moment, and commission men’s fortune.
The Italians may, in their turn, trade in Spaghetti, a splendid currency if ever there was one.
The money traders and commission men would all go bancrupt, which would be ideal.
As I heard PM Cameron on TV News direct afew hours ago, he actually said that
any move to have the IMF shoring-up the Euro would be wrong, and Britain will not support it.
Of course you do all know the IMF is an American run concern. And the great Superstate decides where and how the money will be dished out. And by whom. Doesn’t it? (But who are the people behind this US managed concern?)
On top of that, you have to dance to their tune if you want to be bailed out. They were at the back of Greece being found solvent to join the Euro and the cause of the downfall of that same Euro. And they will be the ones who will plunder Europe as it goes into insolvency. Really, it’s the mortgage broker foreclosing, only on a bigger scale.
Remember this? I put it up some time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk21WMGPc4Q
And now, who controls the IMF? Listen very carefully indeed to who is in control of the IMF. Forget the smokescreen of the ‘poor’ countries and instead think Europe and the UK who are now at the begging bowl of these money lenders.The rules were already set up to take all this into account. Now when you get loans from a bank, what do they take as security against their lending. Yes, collaterol. And what does Greece and the rest of Europe have as collateral?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xgxCf05Kmw
Now this is an important guy with the beginning of thought on all of this chicanery. He has it first hand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZwkhFemQ&feature=related
So, you may ask, who/what is the IMF. The people who ‘own’ it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZwkhFemQ&feature=related
Well see if you can find out! There is a challenge for you. I couldn’t find the absolute. I found a lot pointing the finger at ’13 families,’ that included the Rothschilds, the Rockerfellers, the Bush’s and the Windsors, and so on, but nothing concrete.
http://tech.mit.edu/V120/N46/46chomsky.46n.html
Well, whoever does own the IMF is about to buy up the planet…..
Does that sound like a move toward democracy to you?