Lords correspondence 2: war and propaganda

Lord Lucas

We get a fair bit of propaganda too, from all sides of various conflicts. Here’s one example:

Brutality of Turkish soldiers on the body of Kurdish guerrillas

Friday, 09 July 2010 14:06

HAKKARI, Northern Kurdistan — The bodies of 7 Kurdish guerrillas who lost their lives in an ambush on a military outpost in Hakkari were savagely tortured and destroyed by the Turkish soldiers. According to the eye witness one body was beheaded.

The Executive Council of Democratic Confederation of Kurdistan (KCK) called for mass protests against the brutality of the Turkish army.

“The bodies of those guerrillas who lost their lives on 5th July in an ambush on military outpost in Beyyurdu village in Shemzinan district of Hakkari were destroyed by the Turkish soldiers”, said attendant of the funeral.

The witnesses stated that while one body was beheaded the eyes of the majority of the bodies were scratched out. They also stated that all the bodies had knife scars.

The Executive Council of Democratic Confederation of Kurdistan (KCK) stated that Turkish army is committing war crimes against the Kurdish people by destroying the bodies of our guerrillas. KCK also called upon the Kurdish people not to be silent in the face of this brutality of the Turkish state and turn each guerrilla funeral into a civil upraise.

8 comments for “Lords correspondence 2: war and propaganda

  1. Carl.H
    12/07/2010 at 11:29 am

    “We get a fair bit of propaganda too”.

    How does one differentiate propaganda and information ?

    • Gareth Howell
      12/07/2010 at 12:52 pm

      “How does one differentiate propaganda and information”

      Entirely depends on you really. Can you recognize a completely concocted story from one which has a semblance of truth about.
      Concoction is propaganda, and Semblance of truth is Info!

      • Carl.H
        12/07/2010 at 1:23 pm

        Does that infer personal opinion?

        If for instance we take a subject such as Global Warming. Both sides profess knowledge to a degree, parts may or may not be concocted or contain semblances of truth.

        The House is often subject to statistics which in my opinion are often wrong because of the way the data was gathered and implemented. Harriet Harmans sex trafficking data was grossly inflated,proven so at a later date, yet those with little or no knowledge accept the data from a respected source eg., Ms Harman.

        So in that instance we have some semblance of truth in that some trafficking does exist but the statistics were concocted.

        • Gareth Howell
          13/07/2010 at 2:49 pm

          Thanks to Carl for his educated reply.

          “Does that infer personal opinion?”

          In answer to that and his example. “yes; it is a bit of both and only a reading of political ‘facts’ in the fulness of time reveals how much of one and how much of the other.”

          Carlh understands both, propaganda and fact, in that case the wrong way about. Stat should be fact! Example may be propaganda especially if it gains general but false credence.

          • 14/07/2010 at 10:40 am

            Psst! Possibly ‘information’, ‘statistics’, ‘data’,’background’, ‘evidence’ are manipulatively deployed as a defensive ploy;

            whereas ‘propaganda’, ‘manifesto’ ‘policy-release’, ‘legislative-speech’, ‘Question Time Supplementary’ can be exploited more aggressively ?
            ? (j)

  2. Twm O'r Nant
    12/07/2010 at 11:50 am

    Good thing that we Welsh have been pacified, what?!!

    • 12/07/2010 at 4:16 pm

      Why do so many millions of Arab people, who have huge hectarages of land areas and hugely profitable ‘resources’, still covertly intend to ‘chop up every Israeli into little pieces and throw them into the Mediterranean Sea’ ?

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