Following my blog of 12th October about next month’s elections for Police and Crime Commissioners, I have asked a Written Question on this subject, the answer to which can be seen here.
Police and Crime Commissioners
by Lord Hylton • • 11 Comments
Following my blog of 12th October about next month’s elections for Police and Crime Commissioners, I have asked a Written Question on this subject, the answer to which can be seen here.
It’s taken me a couple of minutes to find out who my local candidates are but I’ve not had a leaflet or any communication from any of them. I suspect I’m not alone. Hardly surprising if people don’t (as the polls show) even know the elections are going on.
There is also the question of whether people should be participating. Lord Blair of Boughton seems to think we should not vote.
Every time I hear Blair talk on the subject I become more convinced we need PCC elections!
I have no information either, about the candidates and their interests, organisational-loyalties, and individual-human-development leanings or antagonisms;
nor any notification of an election and my duty or right to be a voter therein.
None of the public I have spoken with, on buses or in other passer-by public places,
has any knowledge of this Police Election
(incidentally, Lord Hylton’s link shows that the Home Office’s Lord Taylor of Holbeach’s main interest is narrowly in getting “85% of Britain’s forty-one police forces’ informed and encouraged to vote”
so does that mean 85% of police-force-employees, ?
or 85% of The People ? in which latter case this is the first I have heard about British Democratic Voting being divided into Policing-Areas instead of into the normal constitutional Constituent-Electorates – – –
so, are we on the brink of becoming a Martial-Law or Police-State ?)
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and Jonathan’s addition –
that some
including spokesperson Lord Blair
seriously think that the Public (the Electorate) should not be voting in such a vital security and people’s-sustainworthy-lifestyling influencing or controlling selection
of best-professional and most-impartial citizenry-leaderful candidates for high Police Commissioner offices;
– simply highlights the malfeasantly neglectful sham and ridiculous “Democratic” charade that this Popular Election of Police Chiefs
has in “people-centered-facts-on-the-ground” become.
I have also made some effort to find out and i have received details of voting thu the post. The local lab party updates me as follows:
The Police and Crime Commissioner will replace the existing Police Authority. The role has two main strands: criminal justice & community safety, and will:
1. hold the Chief Constable to account on behalf of local residents and in turn be accountable to the public and the new Police and Crime Panel.
This local accountability holding can only be good. The IPCC (Independent police complaints commission) has not shown itself to do anything other than chuck complaints back to the Chief constable’s office. That is how it always was. Perhaps local accountability will be an improvement.
What did the old style county High Sherriff do though? Was he not the IN-directly elected councillor who took the Chief constable to account in some areas?!
I heard once that a sheriff, in the 20thC, ran a brothel in one midlands town. Perhaps he was taking the Chief Constable to account.
Perhaps Mr Blair was never impressed with Commissioner Gillian B. Loeb. Did you vote for James Gordon I know I did? Makes you wonder though, whatever happened to Lord Hylton’s batman?
dear Lord Hylton,
Potential police men should attend the school of police in order to be potential policeman as they represent security and the welfare of the United Kingdom. I think recruitment should be selective on the basis of their results obtained and a degree in criminal law is a must to all policemen serving the United Kingdom. Commissionners should be selected on the basis of their past experience and promotions should be given to those commissioners who have a master in law. Law is important in the role of the police and unfortunately most schools of police are self centered on self defense but not on the solid citeria of academic qualifications like a degree in law. Policemen in the uk represent the security of the whole nation living in the country and it would be helpful if they could be well trained after a selective choice for example both a written exam and oral one to seek for their motivations to serve the country.Among those selected to attend the school of police, besides pratical training, law courses namely criminal law should be taught so that they might have a BA in law together with their pratical training in some police stations as well.
Regarding commissionners of police, they should have a master in criminal law, have sufficient working experience around 3 years as a commissioner of police and having attended the school of police.
Policemen in the United Kingdom should be armed for security reasons.
God save the United Kingdom. God save the Queen and the lords.
Nazma FOURRE
And if they don’t they should be sent off to the Gulags for re-education.
So what about the democratic needs of the electorate?
Ah yes, the plebs get no say, its for the Peers to dictate.
LB,
Freedom is democracy and security is freedom allowing democracy to prevail in the world.Owing to human demography highly increasing, new technologies and knowledge is a must andthe onlu way to be able to acquire knowledge is by attending conferences. Policemen in every day walks of their life are in direct contact with law and no one can deny this cross intersection between law and security. This freedom of thought of mine in this democratic world allows me to ask the right honorable lord to upgrade the school of police through law courses. I do think that this will be a good measure to upgrade security in the united kingdom.
God save the Queen, and her lords. God bless the United Kingdom.
Nazma FOURRE
Owing to human demography highly increasing, new technologies and knowledge is a must andthe onlu way to be able to acquire knowledge is by attending conferences
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Twaddle. You’re contradicting yourself.
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This freedom of thought of mine in this democratic world allows me to ask the right honorable lord to upgrade the school of police through law courses
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And they will ignore you. After all you’re a pleb and you’ll have to do what your told to do.
LB,
Freedom of speech has never been a pleb otherwise, the human convention rights will be violated. I am free to propose as any participants my ideas to lords who are free to accept or to decline them. So let them react as I don’t think that you have been chosen to be their barrister so far as you have always been keen and enthusiastic to criticize their good and noble point of views.
So let the lord speaks and I am sure that the silence of lord Hylton shows his approval to my interesting idea of providing law courses to policemen for their best of their interest to serve the United Kingdom.I am sure her Majesty approves my idea.
God save the Queen and her Lords. God bless the United kingdom.
Nazma FOURRE