Leveson Inquiry

Lord Soley

Well – I knew there were some pretty dodgy operations going on at News International but I didn’t think the payments to the police and other organisations were as extensive as they apparently are.

In the past I was hearing rumours of hacking, dodgy payments and off course, sexual harrassment  at the Sun but I was only able to prove the latter. When I look back at it now it is worrying that other people must have heard rumours too but again if they couldn’t prove them you were in difficulty.

The main failing must fall on the senior management and the owner. They would have pursued anyone else in authority to resign on half the evidence now coming to light. A newspaper, the News of the World has been closed – wrongly in my view. It was the management that should have fallen on their swords – the newspaper could have lived on.

There is more to come out on this. I have given written evidence to Leveson but I cannot publish it until the inquiry has decided if it wants to call me for oral evidence and I won’t know this for some time yet.

15 comments for “Leveson Inquiry

  1. Lord Blagger
    28/02/2012 at 11:13 pm

    So lets see. No doubt you approve of those receiving the money, since they aren’t mentioned.

    Why is that?

    It takes two to tango, and that police, MPs, Peers, Civil servants are likely to be the ones that have been on the take, do you think that they should be targeted?

    If found guilty do you think the organisations should be disbanded, wound up, like News international.

    Let me guess. Nope.

  2. MilesJSD
    29/02/2012 at 12:29 am

    “Do They Think You’re Stupid ?
    – 100 ways of spotting Spin and Nnsense…” by Julian Baggini
    (- who is no small ‘bagger’ of cleverly-doctored fallacies published-for-the-eyes-of-the-World, or sniper-aimed-just-at-you-alone).
    (‘Self-as Wholly-Human’)
    “Awarenss Heals” by Steven Shafarman (Feldenkrais Method proponent)
    is my other recommendation,
    for your self-comforting as well as

  3. maude elwes
    29/02/2012 at 6:28 pm

    It is about time this whole rotten subterfuge was outed. The entire managerie should get their just deserts. Including all those mentioned by the above Blagger post.

    Unless you have the courage to out it and let the skittles fall where they should, it will repeat itself, once it’s felt to have died down. This is a bad lot, and only being rid of it will change the landscape for us all.

    Which leads to another serious issue none of us has managed to raise to the surface here to date. All these Englishman, who are, in the main, law abiding citizens, finding themselves shipped off to a savage land in order to face what is laughingly referred to as justice. Justice in an American court is a misnomer. The two don’t fit together.

    Note, the US government have tracked and arrested only ‘white, middle class, Englishmen’ who were easy to find and easy to assault, with the assistance of our authorities. Not one Abu or Mohammed or kill planner of that ilk is not proteceted by our ‘human rights defenders,’ but, the Nat West Three, Gary Mckinnen, Richard O’Dwyer and now a sixty five year old, Christopher Tappin, are being transferred to a place that is equal, if not more abusive, than Jordan with our governments consent and collusion. Which is reneging on its deal to the British people to put this treachery out of reach of those not fit to be trusted with ‘human rights.’ How much do you have to see and know before you will face up to the oppressers in this horrendous game. And where are the lawyers who are expert in the ‘human rights’ laws, as they are for those already mentioned? Is the funding too low to bother?

    And please don’t try to fob it off by telling us all that you don’t know what goes on in US jails or are unaware of the covert illegality of the system they are being forced to enter. How is it not against the ‘Human Rights Act’ to be sent to this country that plays outside the game of civilised expectation? And why are you making us easy game for this land of mayhem? Is there a back hander in it somewhere? Surely it cannot be a matter of conscience.

    Here is a little summary, just in case it has all slipped through those, so called, cracks. And do remember loudly that US jails are run on a private basis. They are a law unto themselves and Wyatt Earp, compared to ths bunch of mad men we see here, was a good guy. Or, a white hat, to you uninitiated.



    As I keep reminding you, this is an economy that suits those who run this nation you all appear to feel we should be emulating. Is this really what you want for our people? You are sending these British citizens to torture. Mental as well as physical.

    And here we read about children as young as thirteen imprisoned in those adult jails for life. If they treat American children this way, whatever makes you believe Englishmen will fare as well?


    And jails for children here in the USA.




    If you believe this a suitable country to extradite our citizens to then you need to realise that in US jails guards also commit sadistic assault on inmates on a regualr basis. Not an occasional event.


  4. Gareth Howell
    29/02/2012 at 7:20 pm

    you get people like Lambhorgini the Italian buffoon, as prime minister, who is only there due to his media clout, and plays any game he likes with the courts and the press, and it makes you rather glad that Murdoch and his family have the pleasant, and normal, personalities that they do. Elizabeth (Murdoch) is a fine and thoughtful woman whom I very much admire.

    The totally disproportionate attention given to them by parliament in recent months suggests that if anybody in the murdoch family feels like it, they could soon possess the reins of not just media power in the UK but political power as well.

    It’s only a hop, skip and a jump from the Committee corridors to 10 downing street if you have a mind for it. Young Murdoch would
    probably do the job better than any of the current contenders for the work, and his sister Elizabeth would outstrip Margaret thatcher by leaps and bounds.

    I wonder whether any of them has UK nationality, or whether their 3rd estate
    integrity is sufficient to keep them well out of political power in any country of the world in which they might choose to exercice it, in the 2nd?

    They would certainly be wiser than ah yes Berlusconi, and his British henchmen.

  5. Twm o'r Nant
    29/02/2012 at 8:26 pm

    I knew there were some pretty dodgy operations going on at News International but I didn’t think the payments to the police and other organisations were as extensive as they apparently are.

    Who is saying so? The BBC? The state enterprise news which does so much damage to the morale of, for example, the NHS every day of the week, is surely the only organisation making the running against the Murdoch empire.

    there must be very sound business reasons for not arguing the toss with the likes of that splendid singer/performer Charlotte Church for £600,000, which is, of course, not very much, in this modern day and age, of £5m properties in Poole.

    But it is extraordinary how celebrities have lined up for their share of the phone hacking damages in the last few months, and very little resistance to paying it out, a a time when the re-organisation of the delivery of news,continues to undergo considerable change,(and closure) which has sweet fanny adams to do with phone hacking, but everything to do with electronic news delivery.

  6. Lord Soley
    Lord Soley
    29/02/2012 at 9:36 pm

    Lord Blagger. Your comments just don’t make sense.I don’t want News International disbanded. I do think managers and owners have to take responsibilty. A few resignations would indicate a sense of responsibilty – just as in other jobs.

    • Lord Blagger
      01/03/2012 at 11:16 am

      Look, we have Peers, MPs and the BBC screaming for News International to be wound up.

      Why, because they paid people illegally for information.

      So for those organisations where those people took the illegal payments, the management is also equally weak, for employing and allowing people to be in their jobs and take the cash.

      So if it is found out that someone working for HMRC has been on the take, will the head of HMRC go? I doubt it. Will the Osbourne go? I doubt it.

      Given the BBC has already be found out receiving cash in order to push particular programs and views, in direct violation of its charter, why shouldn’t the BBC be calling for itself to be wound up?

      Ah yes, its political. Politicians are going after Murdoch because Murdoch is an independent voice that has a large media outfit and they don’t control. The BBC is after him because he is a rival.

      Why not have some prison sentences?

      What about the corruption in the Lords?

  7. MilesJSD
    29/02/2012 at 11:55 pm

    Lord Soley says: “I do think managers and owners have to take responsIbility” – – –

    Pray, what do you do, or what is anywhere-on-Earth being done, about the unrepayable excessive trillions of human-livings
    in cash and property over the years, decades, even centuries
    already stacked higher-than-heaven-itself,
    certainly destroying Earth’s Non-Renewable Lifesupports
    as well as extincting crippling amounts of Earth’s Bio-Lifesupports,
    and planned to continue thus runaway-inflationary, for at least fifty years already announced,

    by (for instance) those groups of highly-empowered-professionals above-indicated by Lord Blagger ?

    and which are being coveted by billions of lesser-pay-bracket people worldwide
    who also want many more than one-human-living-each out of the Common Purse
    & out of “the-or-God’s”
    infinitely wealthy and inexhaustably Prosperous Natural Earth Lifesupports
    & “Excellent-Human-Economics” ? ? – – –

    when this over-bloating Issue is much more about response-Ability, our Human Ability:

    and focally about the lack of response-ability
    by both those controlling the Tools and Purse-Strings
    and by those lesser others of us 7 billion people who must continually be responding to High-Commands to “Jump” by asking or proactively-practising
    “Yes, Sir, Yes, Madam, How high ?”

  8. Sharon Morgan
    01/03/2012 at 1:45 am

    The main failing was those in power seeing and not caring, even turning a blind eye until being caught out.

    Can’t wait for all the MP’s involved to be found out and I’m betting there are a few who are squirming in their boots and losing sleep at night wondering when they’re going to be rumbled. That is, if it’s not all covered up quickly so we never get to find out what has really been going on. There have been way to many leaks over the years for there not to be a scandal behind it somewhere.

    This is one problem that isn’t going to go away quickly and can’t be blamed on a poor upbringing or a life on welfare. However will cameron cope.

  9. Malden Capell
    01/03/2012 at 10:19 am

    I’m with Lord Soley on this one. He’s not calling for NInt to be dissolved – that would be a bit far, seeing as many of the ordinary staff are guiltless here!

    Any officials who have received such money should of course be brought to public attention and disciplined, but it would be the epitome of hypocrisy if it were any of the Murdoch Press or other journals under scrutiny to do that condemnation.

  10. MilesJSD
    02/03/2012 at 12:46 am

    Once again please hear the Lifesupportive gramophone record:
    “One human being needs but One-human-living”.
    (Make that one-human-living £300 per week and the tax-free threshold becomes £15000 per year –
    yet we below £10000 a year are still being %-more-heavily taxed than the six seven and eight figure income-demanders&recipients-&-tax-avoiders.
    Measure the psychiatrist’s £3000 per week in terms of DSMn and you are paralysed under a constitutionally, legally, and spin-doctoredly “boss” who is totally possessed by the Delusion that she/he is “ten human beings” –>

    and you can measure all others likewise, being handed-out (they are never “earning”) multiples of this £300 per week one-human-living-per-one-human-being;

    and see how already ‘quicksand-trapped’ we are;
    as nothing better than an aggressively-destructive alien-race on Earth’:
    Professor Jonathan Stone said it, in the Reader to the Australian Open Universities ‘Environmental Studies’ course beginning way back in the 197Ts
    (“)This human race has become literally a plague upon Earth(“).
    We have no life-supportive values;
    we are none of us “fit for Purpose”;
    we are all trapped in a ‘Tower of Babel’,
    like wasps wallowing in honey
    until they drown.
    Lord Soley, when you assert that “the Newspaper ‘could’ (‘should’ ?) have lived on”

    surely you too are a ‘wasp’ not only drowning in an insidiously-wideflung-trap but in the process are trampling lesser ‘wasps’ (like us £300-or-less per week income-recipients) under your ‘feet’ ?

    In short, not for nothing did people refer to the N of the W as the “Screws of the World”
    and it was written, in similar newsprint black-and-white (once only once and once for all, religiously)
    “the Flooze, Screws, Scrooge and Booze of the Whirled” —>

    and I can not believe it with my heart;
    but my eyes and head tell me that it is so,
    that the Empowered Governance of this World, of Britain, of the House of Lords, of this Blog
    is chainsawing-down and pulping thousands of beautifully-created Trees worldwide, just so that Murderochs can be the one-eyed kings over the World of the Blind.
    Anybody else find themself risking being branded as ‘wildly, dangerouslly, making no sense’
    “off topic”, too ?
    @ Malden’s “many of the ordinary staff are guiltless here !” –>
    as (for instance) were the Gestapo experts-on-the-ground ?

  11. Gareth Howell
    02/03/2012 at 5:34 pm

    Blagger’s paragraph 5, “Given that….” begins to drum to the right beat, but the idea of winding up NInt is really dimwitted.

    Some of its newspapers may well do, and if damages claimants are happy to move over to electronic delivery of news from Nint then so much the better for News int.

    Every successful claim is another good story, slightly expensive, but then whom are you paying?

    I don’t for a moment know the ins and outs of the e-mail and browser delivery services but
    there was some question at one time that the Beeb would go in to it too, in order to save its soul.

    News international is certainly involved.

  12. Gareth Howell
    02/03/2012 at 5:40 pm


    The Enquiry may be laughable. I don’t generally laugh at enquiries until I know what they are about; then I often do.

    It looks as though Newscorps business has rather a larger turnover than the BBC and the Leveson enquiry is just sour grapes HOWEVER MANY LIBEL SUIT CLAIMANTS the BBC puts up to it.

    BBC? Small Beer.


  13. Twm O'r Nant
    02/03/2012 at 9:22 pm

    The real question may be the integrity of the satellite telecommunications system owned by Newscorp which does digital technology.

    I have never doubted my own more recently which is the phone coop but the one before that tried to rob me and succeeded in robbing, by way of corporate theft, tens of thousands of other customers of several hundred pounds by claiming they had used the
    service for looking at pornography.

    I took them to the Ombudsman and won the case, since I was the only person at my phone at any time during the 3 month period in question, and had certainly not used it for such a purpose.

    So on substantial business in email delivery certainly did NOT have any integrity whatsoever.

    If a corporation has newspapers as well as
    e-mail browser customers what is there to
    prevent them opening anybody’s file/folders they feel like opening? Nothing whatsoever!

    When I have a problem with my laptop the service provider asks to “go in to” my files, which I allow him to do.

    He could, if I am unwise to trust him (phonecoop) keep on going in to my files, and if he owned a newspaper quite easily amend
    the information on my e-mails and publish it.

    Are we talking about phone hacking or PC hacking?

    There may not be much difference, but I would be inclined to think that phone hacking is/was a cheap journalistic game for some years, and that the technology guys at the server would not dirty their hands with such impropriety, nor even at Newscorp or its server subsidiaries.

    People are so keen to tell the world about themselves on facebook and Twitter and so forth (and me here perhaps) that any “News Stringer ” information can be obtained at the drop of a hat, without doing anything like entering files or laptops at any time.

    Hackers are a lunatic fringe bunch any way.

    The high street news stringers are the ones who have files on us all, and would certainly not hesitate to do such things. they are usually independent organisations who provide info to the press for a fee. they would be the ones to suspect of Hacking computers in future not just listening to garbled conversations, of the past.

    Digital technology is not easy to hack but they are finding ways of doing it.

  14. Katy
    29/04/2012 at 9:55 am

    Interesting article.
    If you are interested in press freedom here is a great debate by Worldbytes, where volunteers consider the Counter Leveson Inquiry, a campaign launched by the online journal Spiked. Journalist Patrick Hayes challenges participants not to go along with the inquiry’s dangerous assumptions. He argues that free speech and a free press with no ‘buts’ are essential for democracy.

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