News of the World

Lord Soley

I don’t like the News of the World but I like closing newspapers even less. This is Rupert Murdoch trying to get out of a very deep hole. What about the staff who are suddenly on the dole when no senior person loses their job and the main charges are still unanswered?  There are many good journalists who will be sickened by these developments.

I think we will see a new paper launched by Murdoch – The Sun on Sunday perhaps? We must have a proper enquiry on the hacking issue which many believe was not limited to the News of the World. Also about the payments to police – remember Rebekah Brooks confession to the Select Committee when she said it did happen? She still has her job. The hypocrisy runes very deep. If this had been a politician they would be hounded out of office. I find it hard to believe that Rupert Murdoch knew nothing about this and even less likely that Rebekah Brooks knew nothing about it.

So what is needed? Obviously the police have to continue their work but a judge led enquiry would ensure that both hacking and police payments could be looked at in a way that might satisfy an angry public. I do think the BSkyB deal has to be stopped. News International is not a fit organisation to gain yet more control over the media. Finally the role of the Press Complaints Commission needs to re examined. When it was launched it was a very weak body. It is better now but still not strong enough. Conciliation is fine up to a point but if it is to be an effective regulator then it needs a much clearer role and the ability to really hold newspapers to account.

19 comments for “News of the World

  1. Lord Blagger
    08/07/2011 at 8:41 am

    Who cares unless you’re a NoTW journalist?

    Murdoch pulls the plug, they lose their jobs.

    It’s just the same as you passing laws that mean people lose their jobs, directly or through increased costs.

    A touch of the crocodile tears.

    • Dave H
      12/07/2011 at 5:47 pm

      There is also the point that the previous government was big on forcing us to provide them with personal information and submit to intrusive questions. The only difference is that NoTW supposedly did it outside the law and the government merely changed the law to make their version legal and enforceable.

      If the information is in a database with loose access restrictions then it’s inevitable that some will leak. The best protection is to not have the database in the first place, then government and media will be unable to plunder it.

  2. MilesJSD
    milesjsd
    08/07/2011 at 10:41 am

    The News of the World, long before WW2 and long after it too, has been notorious for its scandalising..

    Newspapers then had just a dozen or so double pages;
    so they were much more environmentally-friendly to the Earth’s natural-lifesupports and Humankind’s workplace and lifeplace needs and efficiencies, than are today’s monstrosities.

    It was the ‘Sundays’ that were first puffed-up with additional pages and inserts.

    In contrast, the Daily Mirror once came out with only 10 pages total; whilst the News of the World and other Sundays were reliably 20 pages thick, give or take a few pages;
    and as soon as Peace returned were being increased in both weight and amount of Journalistically-stipulative verbiage).

    So the Newspaper Press has become obscenely bloated and wasteful, of both human Workplace and human Lifeplace timeframes and efficiencies, as well as being catastrophicly-destructive of both renewable and non-renewable Earth-lifesupports.

    The right thing to be done is to stop all newspaper and magazine printing; and confine their content to the Internet.
    Public Libraries could affordably download and print-out copies for their Reading Rooms;
    and home PC users could slectively print-out;
    at great savings in lifesupports, workplace and lifeplace efficiencies,
    and to the hugely-greater-enablement of most people, freeing them with time and focus to both seriously and effectively participate in democracy.

    I shall shed no tear for any newspaper’s or magazine’s shut-down;
    and for the collapse of the bloatedly-rich “private-individuals” that “own” such life-disruptive industries I shall be praying;
    and when they fall, I shall rejoice..

    1041F080711.JSDM.

  3. Twm
    08/07/2011 at 1:31 pm

    When did the captain abandon a sinking ship, and not become land based or in charge of a river ferry for the rest of his/her days?

    My life was blighted as an 8 yr old by NotW.
    I am delighted at the end of the name and the low standards it represents and most journalists must be too.

    The only reason they say it’s good is ‘cos they don’t want to be investigated too!

    • maude elwes
      11/07/2011 at 7:23 pm

      I feel Mrs Brooks is a lady who has mastered the female art of being able to elevate the feelings of a man’s masculinity. This makes him king. And this is what she has so cleverly done to ‘all’ the powerful men she meets.

      With R Murdoch she carried out his wishes to the hilt. This is why he cannot get rid of her. She followed his rule. He is the driving force behind her organizational ability. And that, along with her steadfast loyalty to femininity, was how she succeeded.

  4. Gar
    10/07/2011 at 12:34 pm

    The facts are that nobody in the civilized world needs to work.

    All the bread flour needs of the people of the UK are provided by 12 combines working flat out from dawn to dusk, from the Mexican border to
    the grain belt of Canada for 9 months a year.

    The same applies to other food production
    in such a way that if nobody worked again, they would all be amply provided for.

    The only problem is organising the distribution of the food, and educating non workers as to how things grow without their having so much as ever walked across a field with cows in it, or planted a seed.

    Primitivism has a lot to be said for it, but not in the way that journalists purvey it…..as anarchy.

    Third way distributism urges proper control
    of capitalism so that everybody may enjoy
    similar standards of wealth, but the civilized world has merely exported its poverty and famine to other places, in such a way that they can give pound notes/ card numbers to salve their consciences about their non productive existences, whereas the only proper way of clearing their consciences would be to become involved in micro-economic food production, using their own sweat and blood, to save provide for the starving poor elsewhere.

    Chairman Mao’s compulsory rural working for city types had a good deal to be said for it.

    Distributism crosses all the political boundaries providing you accept that the Third Way is part of it, as a sub class.

  5. Twm O'r Nant
    10/07/2011 at 12:37 pm

    The facts are that nobody in the civilized world needs to work.

    All the bread flour needs of the people of the UK are provided by 12 combines working flat out from dawn to dusk, from the Mexican border to
    the grain belt of Canada for 9 months a year.

    The same applies to other food production
    in such a way that if nobody worked again, they would all be amply provided for.

    The only problem is organising the distribution of the food, and educating non workers as to how things grow without their having so much as ever walked across a field with cows in it, or planted a seed.

    Primitivism has a lot to be said for it, but not in the way that journalists purvey it…..as anarchy.

    Third way distributism urges proper control
    of capitalism so that everybody may enjoy
    similar standards of wealth, but the civilized world has merely exported its poverty and famine to other places, in such a way that they can give pound notes/ card numbers to salve their consciences about their non productive existences, whereas the only proper way of clearing their consciences would be to become involved in micro-economic food production, using their own sweat and blood, to save provide for the starving poor elsewhere.

    Chairman Mao’s compulsory rural working for city types had a good deal to be said for it.

    Distributism crosses all the political boundaries providing you accept that the Third Way is part of it, as a sub class.

    • 11/07/2011 at 11:01 am

      You said “All the bread flour needs of the people of the UK are provided by 12 combines working flat out from dawn to dusk, from the Mexican border to the grain belt of Canada for 9 months a year.” but have no idea on a map of the geography you mention, and I suppose you will latter excsue your manner of speech as excusable.

  6. 11/07/2011 at 10:58 am

    I am very happy to see this discussion as by the responses as of yet I take notice of a great deal of cynicism sarcasm and the like, though the good lord has not spoken in any great detail we are at least in part of a like mind as I too wrote of these atrocities that occurred at the behest of those in charge in management administration at “The News of the World” entitled:
    IS “THE NEWS OF THE WORLD”EVIDENCE OF A CRIME?(http://templeofreason.org/news/?p=2158) for which I respectful ask hearing as the good lord is correct as Rupert Murdoch can criminally attempt in closing NOTW after 168 years of publication only to have it open again in essence under another name, exemplifying capitalism at its worst.

    The question is asked “Who cares unless you’re a NOTW journalist?” which is expressed elsewhere nearsightedly “I shall shed no tear for any newspaper’s or magazine’s shut-down, as perhaps these days they think they own a newspaper by blogging online.

    True TNOW was often trashy scandalous improper and even criminal but would these people shouting cheers for their demise do the same for any enterprise? In disregard that Rupert Murdoch wish to close it down as they cheer him on? Are they fools or clever accomplices a a crime of depriving British workers, British labor, any labor working at the NOTW proper treatment and respect?

    I say close down the management, close down the large criminal stockholder investors ans support the good people, or has Britain forgot how to do such things?

    This is an international crime also it is not solely British as the carpetbagger Murdoch takes his money out to stem the tide of fiscal blood in thinking he can take it and open shop any where though hopeful not near me. Thank you very much

  7. 11/07/2011 at 6:37 pm

    Can anything be done about those contributors on here who repeatedly, blatantly, persistently, long-windedly, and all-too-predictably, go way outside of the scope of the substantive issue in the Opening Post????????

    • Hansard Society
      Beccy Allen
      12/07/2011 at 10:19 am

      Hi Matt
      We try to have a reasonably hands off moderation approach at Lords of the Blog but our Terms and Conditions do state that posts should not be off topic. Perhaps we should have a stricter approach…thanks for your comments I’ll bear them in mind.
      Beccy

    • maude elwes
      12/07/2011 at 12:14 pm

      @Matt:

      There is a lighter side to life and without it the blog can become a very boring place indeed. For men as well as women.

    • Dave H
      12/07/2011 at 5:42 pm

      I just ignore the ones that seem wordy and hard to understand, or are not relevant. Others are free to write the comments and I’m free to ignore them.

  8. Gar
    12/07/2011 at 12:09 pm

    repeatedly, blatantly, persistently, long-windedly, and all-too-predictably, go way outside of the scope of the substantive issue

    Oh! Look at the spanner!Look! Look!

    In the works of the NotW?

  9. Twm
    13/07/2011 at 9:40 am

    but have no idea on a map of the geography you mention
    I’ve flown over it a couple of times and had a good look,Stergiou.

    If the whole work force has been sacked from NotW will they all be re-employed by Sun on Sunday?

    If not it might be taken that a corrupt tradition has been eradicated and the individual journalists who have lost their jobs, will be re-employed under different conditions of employment and editorial policy.

    168 years of editorial policy would have been too much to change.

    Now for a fresh start.

  10. maude elwes
    13/07/2011 at 10:00 am

    What is really sickening me is all the losers climbing on the ban Murdoch banner.

    Failed ex Prime Ministers who took the country to a financial death, harping about his phone being hacked or his records dissected, it really takes the cake. Pity they didn’t hack into his carry on prior to selling off the country’s gold at costa monger’s prices. Did he make anything out of that because we certainly didn’t?

    Are we now going to see Murdoch and his Empire used to bring in regulation that hides the exposure of those in high places who take us all for idiots. The Tony Blair’s for another supreme example.

    Hugh Grant, now there’s is a pillar of society for you. He and Divine Brown really have a lot to complain about. His lagging career took off when he had his mug shot posted world wide after picking up tarts for sex. And she made a ton selling her story of what a beauty she was over and over again. She wouldn’t have made that on the corner of Hollywood and Vine selling that great her mouthpiece…….

    And should I mention Max Moseley? He really is a great example of someone being humiliated by exposure. As this is what he pays through the nose for, I think he owes the revealer of his story a fortune.

    What regulation needs to centre on is the people who don’t live for headlines. The ordinary man in the street who is unable to sue. Those who don’t seek notoriety, or thrive on it. This is what Murdoch and his crew deserve sanction for. And who need protection.

    The expenses fiddlers are not in that bracket.

  11. Twm O'r Nant
    14/07/2011 at 8:39 am

    our Terms and Conditions do state that posts should not be off topic.

    Unlike the HofL itself where “off topic” remarks are heard.

  12. MilesJSD
    milesjsd
    15/07/2011 at 1:22 am

    It’s much worse, Twm:

    in the light of all the Avoided Issues, that are ‘imperceptively’ causing Human Civilisation, and the Earth’s Lifesupports generally, to slide slowly down the slippery-slope formed by (1) the sacrifice of Lifeplace Individual Human Education to Workplace Global-Economics Training and (2) Blind Global-Overpopulation & Ecological Destructivity,

    practically all of the ostensibly-strategic topics chosen by our Masters are nothing better than tactically coloured-smokescreens, perversely-motivated by a run-away fear-cum-greed-cum-hedonistic-addiction syndrome.

    0123F15.JSDM.

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