The quiz: medicine and the law

Lord Norton

The House of Lords has among its membership several distinguished surgeons as well as a good number of eminent lawyers.  This week’s quiz focuses on peers who are drawn from medicine and the law.  As usual, the first two readers to supply the correct answers will be the winners. 

1. I combined being a surgeon with being a government minister.  Who am I?

2. The Human Rights Act 1998 was introduced by an eminent lawyer, Lord Chancellor Lord Irvine of Lairg QC, but which Liberal Democrat QC is sometimes credited with being the father of the Act?

3. I am a surgeon who spends my summer months undertaking operations on a Mercy Ship off the coast of West Africa.  Who am I?

4. I am a former Director of Public Prosecutions who now sits in the Lords.  Who am I?

5. I am a professor of surgical sciences and Director of the Thrombosis Research Institute.  Who am I?

19 comments for “The quiz: medicine and the law

  1. 14/05/2011 at 4:43 pm

    1. Lord Darzi
    2. Lord Lester
    3. Lord McColl
    4. Lord McDonald
    5. Lord Kakkar


  2. 14/05/2011 at 4:57 pm

    1. Lord Darzi of Denham
    2. Lord Lester of Herne Hill
    3. Lord McColl of Dulwich
    4. Lord Macdonald of River Glaven
    5. Lord Kakkar

  3. Princeps Senatus
    14/05/2011 at 5:04 pm

    1) Lord Darzi, who famously saved a peer from a heart attack during a debate in the House of Lords.
    2) Lord Lester of Herne Hill QC (Not absolutely certain; could be Lord Thomas of Gresford)
    3) Lord McColl
    4) Lord Macdonald
    5) Lord Kakkar (enobled only this year)

  4. Chris K
    14/05/2011 at 5:04 pm

    1) Professor The Lord Darzi, who is Professor of Medicine at Imperial College London.

  5. JH
    14/05/2011 at 5:14 pm

    1. Lord Darzi

    2. Lord Lester of Herne Hill

    3. Lord McColl

    4. Lord (Ken) Macdonald

    5. Lord Kakkar

  6. MilesJSD
    14/05/2011 at 5:35 pm

    One must wonder how many “Alternative”, “Complementary”,

    or “non-mainstream, non-traditional-professionals and lay-practitioners”

    have ever been given or offered seats ?

    (Instantial evidence and argumentation is ready to follow-up with).

    • Lord Norton
      Lord Norton
      15/05/2011 at 4:17 pm

      milesjsd: possibly a question for the Prince of Wales?

      • MilesJSD
        16/05/2011 at 1:07 am

        The Prince of Wales ?
        Very well dressed; walks lithely still; delivers keynote-speeches very plausibly.

        But firstly I can not trust his judgement, simply because he is ‘personally-inefficient’ in the Lifeplace; ‘needing’ many multiples of one-human-living to bonanza-away in his own “super-injuctionised” little lifeplace.

        (By my figuring any-one, not just a figurehead-royal, drawing or being-given many multiples of one-human-living from the Workplace Common Purse is ‘workplace-inefficient’, as well as obviously being lifeplace-personally-inefficient).

        Secondly I do not trust the Prince’s acclaimed 30 years of ‘working with the experts’ to save-the-planet, and save-human-economics, and thus tol be ‘leaderfully’ saving both his own Royal standard-of-‘living’ and (as he said to the European Parliament last February) The Peoples’ traditions.

        So, since he is not even a beginner at setting an example of a sustainworthy-lifestyle that can be followed by 60 million + “followers” –

        (and in my view neither are any other of the Royals, nor of The Establishment, nor when it comes down to it of the two Houses of Parliament nor of the whole of The Civil Service … and nor are more, many more)

        I can not trust such a person; however good they may be at one or two other things in life,
        because none of them are living a good, sustainworthy, and imitable lifestyle.

        Not only The Prince of Wales but every other
        “high up” in the United Kingdom presents as a failure in the field of sustainworthy-lifestyling, sustainworthy individual-human-development-and-education, and sustainworthy natural or ‘alternative’ impairment-remediation.

        Peoples need exemplary, imitable leaders, in the Lifeplace, not from the Workplace;

        and Workers need distinctly different exemplaries in the Workplace, an not therein from the Lifeplace.

        So asking such questions of a “high up” would be like, as Twm also pointed out in other posts, like asking an offending police-department to be judge-and-jury upon itself !
        Now I wish to show why such end-of-careerists as Lord Norton draws attention to in his quiz this week, are not necessarily needed in the Upper House;

        and to begin instantiating the kind of Upper House individual-human-development-teacher or lifeplace-leader who would be more effective to have longterm-seated than the end-of-life “distinguished surgeons”
        (and surely Cameron-Clegg-Cable do not need such permanently-high-up-perched, erstwhilely razor-sharp beaks, to design the “cuts” the People and now possibly even the Parliaments, The Palace, and The-Public-Civil-Service, are already suffering ?)

        and who would be more effective than now-obsolescent erstwhilely “eminent lawyers”:

        Negative Instantiation #1 – The Not Needed:
        “Medicine and Law are the two most prestigious careers; but any suitably wealthy and powerful person can become the best doctor and the best lawyer in the whole world, without any education whatsoever.

        This is true because all that is needed is the best Training, and the right job-placements, at the right times.
        But you don’t need any education.”
        (Source a number of professors around the world’s universities).
        NB please: Although many if not all of the following persons are drawing more than one-human-living from the Common Purse (in order to make-ends-meet in their respective lifeplaces) and thereby are progressively disqualifying theirselves from Leadership, their work is exemplary to be propagated and constituted in our present and future individual-human-development, civilisation-ing, and democratisation-ings, i.e. in our Lifeplace.

        Positive Instantiation #2 – The Needed:

        (1) Linda Hartley
        for her two masterpieces
        “Wisdom of the Body Moving” and “Somatic Psychology”.

        (2) Edward de Bono
        for his masterpieces notably
        “Six Thinking Hats”.

        (3) Janet Goodrich
        for her masterpiece
        “Natural Vision Improvement”.

        (4) Eric Franklin
        for his masterpieces notably
        “Dynamic Alignment Through Imagery”.

        There really is a very long list of such human-improvement advances that are being achieved but are being overlooked or deliberately-repressed:

        therefore it becomes voluntarily incumbent upon this submissor to ask the central-question

        “What is the prospect for getting a number of new and disinterested, but life-and-academia-proven advocates, to be given seats in the Upper House specificly for representing those new-advances ?”

        But sorry, Lord Norton, I’m as lost as you appear to be, at knowing to whom such a question would best be directed.


  7. maude elwes
    15/05/2011 at 10:39 am

    I’m too ‘mixed up’ to answer.

    But good luck to all who make the effort.

    • Lord Norton
      Lord Norton
      15/05/2011 at 4:15 pm

      maude elwes: Well, if you need a doctor, there are several excellent ones in the Lords…

      • maude elwes
        15/05/2011 at 5:39 pm

        @Lord Norton: Are you one of them?

        • Lord Norton
          Lord Norton
          16/05/2011 at 12:48 am

          maude elwes: Well, I have a PhD…

          • maude elwes
            16/05/2011 at 1:14 pm

            @Lord Norton: Peddling a PhD throws a whole new light on it!

          • Princeps Senatus
            16/05/2011 at 6:21 pm

            Reminds me of the Nobel Laureate who heard his maid answer the phone “Yes, he is a doctor, but not the kind that will do you any good”.

          • Lord Norton
            Lord Norton
            28/05/2011 at 10:11 am

            Princeps Senatus: Depends on whether the problem is intellectual or medical..

  8. Ulysses
    15/05/2011 at 1:21 pm

    Probably much too late…

    1. Lord Darzi of Denham

    2. Lord Lester of Herne Hill

    3. Lord McColl of Dulwich

    4. Lord Macdonald of River Glaven

    5. Lord Kakkar

  9. 15/05/2011 at 1:24 pm

    1. Lord Darzi
    2. Lord Lester of Hearne Hill
    3. Lord McColl of Dulwich?
    4. Lord Ken Macdonald
    5. Lord Kakkar

  10. maude elwes
    17/05/2011 at 7:30 pm

    @Princeps Senatus: I assume you are a patrician with an impeccable political record and respected by fellow senators?

  11. Lord Norton
    Lord Norton
    28/05/2011 at 10:11 am

    Congratulations to all those who supplied answers. As I think will be apparent, everyone who replied was correct. Congratulations to Anne Marie Cunningham and Jonathan who were the first to get in with a full set of correct answers.

    Princeps Senatus: I am sure Lord Thomas of Gresford will be grateful to you for thinking it may be him. Not sure Lord Lester will be, though!

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