While looking at some online archived footage of the Lords, I noticed a message on the parliamentlive.tv site which stated that the authorities had, since 2009-10, been looking for ways in which they could feed the same video material to mobile devices.
Curious as to what was taking so long, I put in a parliamentary question to our brand new Chairman of Committees, Lord Sewel. I have reproduced the exchange below.
Lord Tyler: To ask the Chairman of Committees what progress has been made since 2009-10 in delivering archived video coverage of parliamentary proceedings to mobile devices.[HL168]
The Chairman of Committees (Lord Sewel): The Parliamentary Recording Unit is currently working with its video contractor on the introduction of live streaming to mobile devices, which will be available from October 2012. It is also developing options to extend access to archive video covering the past three years of House of Lords proceedings. Separate investigations are under way into options for the digitisation of audio and video tapes dating back to the 1970s, and for enabling this material to be delivered alongside current video output.
So soon citizens will be able to keep an eye on what we’re up to anywhere and, if they don’t like what they hear, go back to the 1970s and listen to the pronouncements of our predecessors instead!
Of course, if the Commons make the same material available, I will be able to sit on a bus and listen to my maiden speech from March 1974, when I was elected in Bodmin for only six months until the October election. That really will be a ride down memory lane…
Actually, the one I asked for a couple of years ago is an audio feed option. Sometimes the audio is all that’s needed, no point in wasting bandwidth on a video feed.
Sometimes I’m listening to the debate while doing something else, so I’m not watching the video. Of course, it’s useful when there’s a visual, such as ministers sitting on each other’s laps.
I wonder if anything will be done to sort out the copyright issue.
It seems a pity that written documents can be used under the Open Parliament Licence, but not video clips.
As many people now prefer video over text, it would be nice if the license could be updated, even if some limits need to be retained to prevent bulk rebroadcasting of the entire archive.
It baffles me why anybody should want to watch on mobile phone. If you were watching somebody contributing to the debate from their lounge at home, and then contributed from the duck pond seats in St James Park it would be a necessary deal.
Then Baron/ess speaker would be the video moderator with a bank of 20 or 30 people in the video chamber on screen ready to speak, making the meeting quorate, and so on.
She might not be inclined to choose a member
in St James Park, as next member to speak, unless of course everybody else were in St James Park as well.
It’s easier to relate to someone if you can see them in person as apposed to just hearing their voices. I think it would be a fantastic thing.
Lord Tyler
Can European poets and journalists can hopefully be life peers one day?
Some participants, as well as Nazma Fourre, may like to consider:
The criterion needed is that every peer, regardless of outside workplace-label, shall be, and be kept, and keep themselves both fit-for-Purpose-&-derived-purposes-thereunder,
the dominant one of which is
that they be affordably advocating & legislatively meeting the real-life needs of every level of The People,
not in any way preferentially meeting ‘insider-opportunisms’ such as by ‘The Westminster Village’ lobbyist-cliques;
and the secondary one is
that they keep themselves within a sustainworthy & emulable-lifestyle, ‘off-duty’, in the Lifeplace, or outside-of their Parliamentary-place and of any other Workplace-position they occupy.
Any such tenure must surely be NOT for “life” (their own little wind-extinguishable candle-worth of it)
but for
“sustainworthy lifesupportiveness (of The People)”.
I am very anoyed that I cannot watch Parliament Live/Democracy Live or BBC Parliament on my I pad please sort this out Chairman of Committess/ Mac!!
From the criterias to be a life peer, the exigence to live in the Uk and to be part of the common wealth countries do seem indeed outdated.Peers do not have to be 24 hours in the country to respond to people’s support but are entitled only to make necessary ammendments to bills proposed by the members of Parliaments. The criteria for the selection of life peers should be reviewed according to our running-fast society.
To be life supportive, as Milesjd seems to point out is not the role of a peer. Peers sit in the house of lords to vote on laws and also to make necessary ammendments to any bill by opposing their veto or delaying the passing of the bill. But still their position of delaying bill is limited as after two denials the Queen can give her royal assent to any law despite the denial of the house of lords. So in the context, the lords are not in direct contact with the public as members of parliament are elected for this purpose such as to work for the interest of their people in their consitutiencies , independantly of the political convictions of their voters
By the way of the legislation of the appointment of life peers, and on considering their restricted power which does not include direct contact with the public, it is more reasonable to ask the selecting committee to modify certain conditions which are now restreigning candidates to be appointed as life peers . They should not belong exclusively to common wealth countries but can be from European Community as the united kingdom belongs to the European Community .Secondly as they come from all walks of life, sometimes from arts world, I do think that poets do fit in the position of being a life peer as they can be regarded as artists.
Thirdly since life peers don’t have to be in contact with the public to listen to their criteria regarding changes which need to be made, they could only be present for the voting of laws and should have the free choice regarding their residential places. They should not be imposed to be residents of the United kingdom.
Nazma FOURRE
Real-World & Earth-Life contextually,
“lifesupports” means both the overarching Natural resources (water, air, caves to shelter in, wild fruits and vegetation) and
Civilisational resources such as farm-foods and the legislated-distribution thereof.
It is the sole purpose and duty of the Peers and Commons, and come to that of every human-being participating in any civilisation anywhere in the World, to be both governancially-legislative and directly-participative in the planning, conserving, collecting, distribution, and waste-management, of all lifesupportive resources.
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Nazma Fourre should also tackle his disinformation, and own mistaken statement-ship, that civilisational-governance has nothing to do with lifesupportiveness.
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And to begin getting a better ‘handle’ on this fact-of-life
and
of the whole world’s increasing need for both a sustainable Economics Equation and a Sustainworthy-Civilisation & Governance thereof,
have a little listen to
“The Fall and Rise of China” (since 600 CE)
48 lectures by Prof Richard Baum:
(“) Seek governancial truth from real-life facts on-the-ground (“)
and have a little skim-read of
“The New Few” by Ferdinand Mount:
(“) the increasing imbalanced and imbalancing enrichment and empowerment of a relatively few (microscopically-small) Individual-Capitalistic Monetary-Elite, without accompanying that ‘tower-of-babel-building’ by egalitarianly-ongoing mind-and-morals-functional improvement both
1) of that unfit-for-purpose “new few” Oligarchy together with its governance-puppetries (the latter including The House of Lords and The Commons)
and
2) of The People (every level of);
and then come back and tell any of us other participants what we “mean” by ( “x-y-z”)
(in this case by “lifesupportive” as applied by MilesJSD).
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PS Nazma’s (inadvertent mis-spelling of ?) ‘restraining’ as ‘restreigning’ might be insightfully developed into a new ‘snapshot’ portmanteau term
“risk-reigning” (of The People as well as of The Peers,
perhaps ?)
directly-participative in the planning, conserving, collecting, distribution, and waste-management, of all lifesupportive resources
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I get it. I get to participate, and you have to give me all your money.
Where do I sign up to the deal, or are you going to hand over your cash cutting out the middle man?
From my knowledge of English law I have learnt about the house of commons and house of lords, the composition and the role of each houses and it is this little knowledge that is enabling be to handle a debate on this site on the role of the house of lords.
In law, I have learnt to know the litteral meanings of words and even magistrates in English law use the every day meaning of words, using simple wordings not farfetched words to impress.
The litteral meaning of life supportness as currently been used by MSLD will be from the stems of words support and life. To support means to help and life means what it is. so life supportness means to support life and neither from my knowledge of English law have the lords been involved in supporting people directly.
According to law, Lords are entitled to sit and vote bills forwarded by the House of Commons. They have a restricted power of holding bills for after two denials, the queen could give her royal assent without prior conscent of the House of Lords.
If you want to change law of your country, MSLD, go ahead, be an MP and be elected to present some criterias which English law does not seem to know about the function of the house of Lords as you seem to know better that the legislation itself. Go ahead make up legislation and make English law aware of the real duties of the House of Lords.The law would award you and the Queen will congratulate you!If you want recognition then work for it, write a book about the functions of the house of lords. This will be more rewarding to your ego than hidding behind a computor with a Pseudo and critizing.
I pay tribute to your aristocratic English which does not impress me.Congratulations though.
God bless the United Kingdom, God save the Queen.
Nazma FOURRE
Dear MSLDJ
Who are you anyway? please tell us. I am just curious to know. Are you a peer, an economist, a barroness, a marquise, and why do you not sign your real name of this blog?
Please tell me , just feel so curious as you do want to challenge me?
Please answer my questions .
Are you a peer?
Are you a baronness?
Are you a woman?
Are you a man?
Are you a child?
Are you an adolescent?
Are you a marquise?
Are you a lady?
Are you a lord?
Are you a duke?
Are you a marquis?
Are you an aristocratic person?
Why do you use MSLD instead of your real name?
Why are you hidding to post your comments?
Tell me more. Just feel so curious to know.
Nazma FOURRE
From the time on MSLD, I would be much honoured if you could spare me from your nasty comments.Don’t spoil the lord’s blog in the name of the Queen, by seeking to provoke me. You are not my teacher and be what you are.
All my comments are addressed to the Lord and not to you and if anytime you have something to say to feel important, then make your own blog and speak to your fingers.
Goodbye
Nazma FOURRE
In the name of the Queen, I do hope that this blog does not show any weakness of some madness of low levelled nuisance comments which are rather upsetting.
I do think that every one has the right to express his or her views and not to be ridiculized by some superior complexed minds, as say this proverb:”Empty vessels always make noise”.
Nazma FOURRE
MSSLd
Before trying to teach others english vocabulary,You have wrongly cited me as “He” as I am a woman.So “she” instead of he The basic English language which one learns in preprimary school. He for a boy, a man and she for a girl and a woman.
Before teaching, please be taught
Friendly Yours and kind regards
Nazma FOURRE
Dear Lord Blagger
You do have a nice sense of humour,I appreciate and I treasure your comments. Well spoken dear Lord to your reply to MSLD.You are just making me smile.I totally agree with your comments.Good points Lord Blagger.
Sealed with a kind thought
God bless the United Kingdom . God save the Queen.
Nazma FOURRE
And I thought they didn’t allow trolls on this blog!
Miles language or way of writing may well be unusual, yes, and often irritating, but he has every right to bring his ‘peaceful’ thoughts to this blog and the House of Lords dwellers as he is an Englishman of good heart.
You, Nazma Fourre, sound in your writing as if you are unstable and would do better to address the issues in your own narrow back yard.
Lord Blagger is not a Peer and you taking his part in his dislike of Miles words is ridiculous. All he is trying to do, is get Miles to be less wordy.
And, if I may advise you as you so keenly advise Miles, who is a proud elderly man, get some further lessons in English before you try conversing on an equal level with the natives.
From what you have said maud, I don’t think neither that my points of views showing my inside feelings are unstable for we live in a democratic world where every one can express oneself in a concise way, nor do I think of having misinterpreted Lord Blagger’s comments which showed kind of hidden support . Forbidding people the freedom of expression is against the human rights.
I would have appreciated if MSLD had come himself to this blog and expressed himself rather to have a spokesman to speak on his behalf. We would have entered in a civilised debate which would not have been reduced to personal insults through your interference.
Regarding Lord Blagger,I shall continue to name him as such , as it is his choice to be named “Lord”. You must have known him personally to state that he is not a lord.My education does not allow me to enter in your personal life and to cope with your order of not naming Blagger as a lord. I guess he is not a toddler and he can come to say who he really is.
Speaking about equal level,I shall intend to disagree that I should be reduced at your level. I am happy with mine .
God bless the United Kingdom. God save the Queen.
Nazma FOURRE
@Nazma Fourre:
You know you suffer from pot calling the kettle black syndrome.
If you could express yourself in the concise way you suggest, that would lighten the load a great deal. Your posts are as difficult to follow as Milesjsd can make them when he is on a run.
And it is you who tried to prevent Miles from his human right to freedom of expression here, yet, you accuse me of this act erroneously.
It is your interference which created personal insults toward Miles, or, are you having as much difficulty following your own writing pattern as I am?
As a little reminder on freedom of expression, I felt the ‘inner feeling’ to act as Samaritan to Miles, as he is a deserving soul whom I chose to offer support. My right to freedom of expression.
As I wrote at the beginning of this post, the pot calling the kettle black is a very good reference to your attitude.
Dear Lord Tyler
I congratulate your step to make the standard of the debates in the house of lords follow the course of the trend of upstandard technologies. Furthermore, I shall tend to add,that it would also much easier to ask beforehand for a chain for parlimentary debates to be broadcasted on a 24 hours basis and accordingly technical measures would be less complexed than to be focussed at the first instance on a mobile device system which is costly .I am sure that her Majesty would approve the idea of debates being followed all through the United Kingdom rather than to only a small section of population who has access to an upgraded telephone system or other sophisticated net system.
My next point of views, dear Lord Tyler is that the opportunity for having a 24 hours parliamentary channel would be more faster than the installation of mobile devices .
So dear Lord Tyler,might I suggest you to think about this measure of setting a 24 hours parliamentary channel, a gateway to all the Uk population to watch the debates, rather than to step directly on measures which are technically costly ,and difficult.
I do think once the access of a parliamentary channel is attrbuted, the transmission of the debate on a mobile system device would be much easier.
Hope that my Lord would approve my suggestion though someone has dared in this room found my comments unstable and not in equal level .I am sure that my Lord would think the opposite. I shall therefore if my lord allows me speak in this blog for my further ideas related to the present topic.
Thanking you before hand my lord
Nazma FOURRE
God bless the United Kingdom. God save the QUEEN.