Some Written Questions and Government Answers October – December 2011

Lord Hylton

Here is a link to my written questions and answers received.

My comment with regard to my Questions re Israel/Palestine, the West Bank, and Gaza, particularly of the following dates:

October 3rd and  31st ,  November 9th,  22nd, 29th and 30th , and 6th December,

is that  the British Government make correct protests , but unfortunately they have little effect on the behaviour of Israel, which is often illegal or provocative.

30 comments for “Some Written Questions and Government Answers October – December 2011

  1. Gareth Howell
    15/12/2011 at 6:38 pm

    Sabre rattling by Iran probably has rather more effect, especially when the US troops are apparently (but not in fact) removing themselves from Iraq.

    The announcement of the updating of US security installations, (there were none)in Iraq has been preceded by, the recall of ambassadors and staff from Teheran, which is certainly semaphore, and probably means that
    Iran has absolutely no bellicose ambitions in the region whatso-ever, although tension in the gulf oil fields persists.

    Let us hope that the people of Israel tremble when Iran talks, and no more.

  2. MilesJSD
    15/12/2011 at 7:39 pm

    It’s a very tiny Israel, isn ‘t it ?
    Yet it is not only surrounded by monstrously-gigantic Arab States and their huge hatred-populations sworn to annihilate Israel and kill all-Jews & Israelis,
    it’s borders have also too long been internally occupied in comparitive ‘ghettos’ by hostile Arabs, upon land areas vital to the peaceful co-existence of Israel, namely the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

    The true history, and Win-Win-Win forward-orienting Needs & Hows Evaluation of those different peoples has yet to be accomplished and published.
    Meanwhile, the best account I have found is by Melanie Phillips in “The World Turned Upside Down” in which the Middle East Situation is covered soberly, factually and with honest reasoning.

    I can not say the same for speeches and writings from the Arab-camp so obviously flawed and imbalancing, and based upon erroneous blind emotion such as the worldwide Arab propaganda drive to “demonise” both Israel and the Jews, worldwide and historically forever.

    It seems to me that Alas! Lord Hylton might be one of a large British and Western privilegocracy encampment, overall ‘handcuffed’ to the many Arab Middle East States Oil Super-Wealth, biased against Israel, and complicitly supporting the Arab demonisation of the Jews and of the State of Israel.

    What happened to the true land of Arab-Palestine, outside of Israel, but much more appropriately and peacefully located within the huge land-area now called Jordan, in 1948 called ‘Transjordan’, which would surely be friendlier kinship state neighbourliness with the aggressive Palestinian-minority now wanting to be internationally established as a member of the United Nations complete with its recidivist hatred of Israel and the Jews, and with it’s larger parent Arab Nations’ Brethren’s “let’s you and them FIGHT” duplicitous complicity.

    Why did, and still do, such Method III-illiterate-and-unwilling-to-learn Arabs as the “Palestinians” covet to the point of destructivity the hard and intelligent progress being made, since at least 1948, by the Israelis ?

    • maude elwes
      16/12/2011 at 11:23 am

      @Miles:

      The monstrous Arab backlash you cite, could be as a result of Zionist massacres on Palestinian villages, as well as terrorism against the British government, in its conception.

      Are the Palestinians supposed to roll over and play dead, without as much as a penny in compensation, to those abused people who lost everything, including their lives and families, simply because they lived in a strip of land that may, or, may not, have been historically settled by Moses?

      Of course, you do know that Germany had to pay, what Jewish people in New York used to call, their Hitler money, not just a one off payment, but a regular stipend up until their death. If Israel had to compensate accordingly, that may go some way to staisfying souls who cry for retribution. Don’t you think?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

      Lest we forget:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gaMNApYKtU

      • MilesJSD
        17/12/2011 at 3:53 am

        How can any of us mere would-be democratic Earth citizens “think”, Maude, without the all-round information being honestly assembled and published first ?

        You yourself have been limited by not realising the prior state of the Palestinian, and other, Arabs ‘a la keefik’, ‘Arab PT – “on the backs down”‘;
        doing practically nothing until they realised the Israelis (‘Jews’ mainly included) were making a great success of thriving against all odds in the modern world;
        then they started struggling to their feet and wanting to eat, drink, be housed and be protected by the new Israel State.

        “Lest we forget” ?
        Better you should forget, and I too, without ALL of the information and with NONE of the spuriosities.

        Notice the overwhelming burden of other “thinkers” flocking round the Flag of “Human Rights”, Maude ?

        How many times am I having to say-it-again
        “First you (we) must get every-one’s real Needs recognised;
        Second you (we) must cooperatively figure-out How those Needs are best to be met;
        then (and only THEN) can you (we/they) effectively begin to determine the various Rights to satisfy those Needs and those Hows;
        and ‘lockstep’ each such stage needs to be Published and democratically agreed by us 7 (seven) billion People On Earth”.

        Now how is that ‘thinking’ to be matched, or even met ?

        Your turn, don’t you “think” ?

    • 18/12/2011 at 1:22 am

      Miles JSD and Maude Elwes,

      In a bllod soaked world it is in fact fairly close to absurd to expect Israel to pay compensation to Palestine when the people involved have been either beligerents, people without legal claim or else integrated into Israel better than a huge number of world minorities. It is also notable that only West Germany paid restitution to Israel funds are still due from the Eastern Lander and also in my view from Austria at a minimum.

      Further Miles JSD is quite right to note that the Arab and other voices have a context. The Ottoman Turks were among the least horrific of Arab Muslim powers and yet their actions against Armenia alone demands vast restitution and against many Jews in many places — and many Palestinians are really Ottoman Turks in their background.

      What the right course of action would be would be a larger Federal Israel where Palestinians control domestic institutions over two provinces or states and have a minor presence in an upper house and real representation in a lower. Israel should probably take Sinai back. This may not be able to happen because the UN is deeply sick and needs reform. However, Arab agression and Iranian agression are both aspects of a long-standing situation. Europe does not only need the oil of the region it also has real antagonisms towards US and Israel. These are growing more defined and so the future is not so promising for anyone in particular.

  3. Senex
    15/12/2011 at 10:16 pm

    Like the new format, quite revealing. Sometimes I think you must have been a woodpecker in a former life you bang your head against the wall so often on matters Palestine.

    For leverage UNESCO members might consider lobbying their governments to remove dual citizenship from people holding an Israeli passport. The Israeli government should have no problem with this as it would not interfere internally with the Aliyah Process. However, the Olim might consider it a one way ticket to a concentration camp defeating the very purpose of the Aliyah.

    Walls keep people in as well as out.

  4. Gareth Howell
    16/12/2011 at 9:38 am

    Is Israel nation state of second home owners, like Wales, in the example of Israel, from New York and London.

    “O’m goig hoom for yom kippur!!”

    I won’t try the Welsh for the moment, though there is always a welcome, for all peoples of the earth, without exception.

  5. P.Selvaratnam
    16/12/2011 at 3:25 pm

    Dear Lord Hylton
    Sri Lankan conflict and Palestinian conflict are now more than 63 years.
    Though many politicians and parliaments find Sri Lankan conflict too complex to deal with, there is a window of opportunity for all of them afforded them by the Canadian House of Representatives Sub-Committee on Human Rights who have recently received testimony from Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. The questions raised by the members of the Committee could be a spur for representatives from various parliaments to form a group to deal with the Sri Lankan conflict(regarded as one of the most difficult to deal with):
    1. http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=5221930&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=1
    and
    2. http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=5256147&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=1

    Pleae persuade All Party Parliamentary Group on Human Rights to give serious consideration to it.

    Thank you, Lord.

    • Senex
      17/12/2011 at 1:56 pm

      Blog etiquette PS; a plain thank you would have sufficed.

      Is this you?

      http://www.internationalpeaceandconflict.org/profile/pselvaratnam

      I can see why you posted because there is a similarity between Sri Lanka and Palestine. It all begins with the import or migration of a distinct people to an area who then become dominant to the disadvantage of the original inhabitants.

      It happened in Wales you know:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-14173910

      But that was a long time before recorded history.

      • pselvaratnam
        19/12/2011 at 10:44 am

        Man has been migrating from the time of his appearance as any biological being.

        If only advances in natural and social sciences can help human beings how to behave in an increasingly complex world ……..

      • Gareth Howell
        20/12/2011 at 9:36 am

        Thanks to Senex for taking up that remark about wales, and of course there is an element of truth in the humour that I attempt to convey in similar “over riding dominant culture” contexts.

        Drs Grierson and jonhston are slightly wide of the mark in their archaeo-historical searches, since the north Waelians are more likely to be Picts and from “Cwmbria” (Cumbria)

        Our own tribe Howell/Welsh/Powell/Houlden/Hoyle/Hayle/Powys
        and other names, have a strong smattering of
        Southern Lebanese genes flowing through.

        Phonecians came north from Lebabon trading, and saw what they liked, and liked what they saw, and brough their people with them to West Wales and South Eastern Ireland (Kilkenny.

        It may not be recorded in the written word, but it certainly is in writ!

        I can remember the late Lord Elwyn Jones,Lord Llanelli, Lord Chancellor 1964-71, reminding me of it, on a special occasion!

        The indigenous population of Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire, and Ceredigion (ancient Deheubarth) have plenty of those east Mediterranean genes mentioned so why they should go as far as North Wales, I really don’t know!

  6. Gareth Howell
    17/12/2011 at 8:46 am

    Dear Mr Selvaratnam,

    I have scanned the Canadian parliament report which you have kindly given to us; it is a damming indictment of the lack of progress made in prosecuting war crimes in Sri Lanka, of which there were vast numbers.

    The Canadian parliament is the right place to deal with such matters internationally, since they have an immaculate record for human rights, and no problems of their own regarding recent interference in the affairs of other countries, and wars with them, in the way that the UK does.

    I hope the peace in Sri Lanka is long lasting, and that it may once again become a paradise on earth, as once described by brochures for those to visit it.

    • P.Selvaratnam
      17/12/2011 at 12:02 pm

      Dear Gareth Howell
      Thank you for your great response.

      Britain has an additional difficulty of having ruled the country. Furthermore, the government thrashes Britain: ”don’t think we’re still your colony” if Britain says anything about Sri Lanka.

      But Britain can support Canada from behind in its initiatives and also earn support for Canada from other countries.

      Ethnic Violence, Development and Human Rights, Netherlands Institute of Human Rights Consultation – Utrecht, 1-3 February 1985: ‘’Although there are many longstanding ethnic conflicts, and special focus on the relation between ethnic conflict and human rights has been long overdue, these two consultations were prompted by the continuously aggravating ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka. ….
      This failure of intergovernmental organizations, based on the reticence of its membership, to look into the question of ethnic conflict early in the process, and to play a protective role, is very much at the heart of the problem. It has to be investigated how the United Nations could play a more preventive role, e.g. by giving ethnic minorities more recognized formal standing in United Nations organs and proceedings, by creating better opportunities for minorities to call on the United Nations, or by giving the United Nations an arbitration role in emerging conflicts.
      ….. there is an immediate need for the creation of an independent group which would have the function of making clear and making widely known the present serious condition of the Tamil people and their genuine demands. It is important that such a group should maintain its independence from the Tamil groups who are presently shouldering this burden and attempting to fulfil this function alone.”

      Mrs P. Selvaratnam

    • pselvaratnam
      17/12/2011 at 3:14 pm

      Dear Gareth Howell
      Thank you for your great response.

      Britain has an additional difficulty of having ruled the country. Furthermore, the government thrashes Britain: ”don’t think we’re still your colony” if Britain says anything about Sri Lanka.

      But Britain can support Canada from behind in its initiatives and also earn support for Canada from other countries.

      Ethnic Violence, Development and Human Rights, Netherlands Institute of Human Rights Consultation – Utrecht, 1-3 February 1985: ‘’Although there are many longstanding ethnic conflicts, and special focus on the relation between ethnic conflict and human rights has been long overdue, these two consultations were prompted by the continuously aggravating ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka. ….
      This failure of intergovernmental organizations, based on the reticence of its membership, to look into the question of ethnic conflict early in the process, and to play a protective role, is very much at the heart of the problem. It has to be investigated how the United Nations could play a more preventive role, e.g. by giving ethnic minorities more recognized formal standing in United Nations organs and proceedings, by creating better opportunities for minorities to call on the United Nations, or by giving the United Nations an arbitration role in emerging conflicts.
      ….. there is an immediate need for the creation of an independent group which would have the function of making clear and making widely known the present serious condition of the Tamil people and their genuine demands. It is important that such a group should maintain its independence from the Tamil groups who are presently shouldering this burden and attempting to fulfil this function alone.”

      Mrs P. Selvaratnam

  7. maude elwes
    17/12/2011 at 7:21 pm

    @All:

    I know this is off topic, but, as this thread is leaning toward war and religion, I thought it a good spot, and a good time as well, to wish you ‘all’ a very Happy Christmas.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79M0P74d6ZA&feature=related

    For Mikiko!

    • Frank W. Summers III
      19/12/2011 at 5:18 pm

      Maude Elwes,
      Happy Christmas! Peace on Earth to all men (and other humans)of goodwill…” The same to you all.

  8. pselvaratnam
    19/12/2011 at 10:38 am

    Dear Lord Hylton
    Thank you for posting my comments and beg your pardon for posting the second comment twice.

  9. MilesJSD
    19/12/2011 at 2:10 pm

    I think Maude invites a 100% culpability, where perhaps her judgement may be only half off-topic

    Reading between, as well as variously, the lines,
    I prefer to believe that this Post is “leaning” not towards War and Religion nor even towards War or Religion;
    but towards egalitarianly democratic Method III recognition, and peacefuly cooperative problem solving, of every – one’s real needs and affordable-hows –
    “win-win-win-win-win-win-win” sevenfold or ‘to the n’; i.e. not just for the two or three powers occupying the main seats in the Meeting Room and/or on the various World Stages,
    but for every affected party not empowered to participate equally in such Meeting(s)
    or simply not able for one good reason or another to be present and participant in such Meeting(s).
    —————————————-

    I too as appropriately as possible wish to wish you all the Seasons’ Goodwill and Greetings.

  10. Senex
    20/12/2011 at 4:21 pm

    There was a DNA profile done for South Wales a while back, can’t remember the exact details but it showed a divide presumably across the ‘Landsker Line’ of Flemish in Pembrokeshire and people to the south. One might have expected the two populations to have merged but they didn’t. Each it seems kept their distinctiveness with only a small amount of merging.

    Hindus were imported by the Raj into Sri Lanka and according to the link below it was Henry I that imported the Flemish into Wales; the Flemish in this respect being the equivalent of the Tamils. The Tamils however belong to a very ancient civilisation that goes back at least to the last ice and one that peaked under ‘Raja Raja the Great’. They are one of the progenitor races that migrated out of Africa.

    Perhaps the sign to peace should be written in Hebrew, Arabic and Welsh?

    Heddwch ar y Ddaear, Crist yn Born
    பூமியில் அமைதி, கிறிஸ்து பிறந்த உள்ளது

    Ref: South West Wales – The Flemish Colonists in Wales
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/immig_emig/wales/w_sw/

  11. Gareth Howell
    22/12/2011 at 6:45 am

    I did not know that!

    (Llawen Nadolig in any event to Senex!)

    That they were Flemish people; I assumed that it was a little bit of England because they were English, or even Normans, but no such thing! They were Normans, or from the direction of the French Vikings.

    I have just been working up a little lecture on the 9th/10thC dynasties of Wales, Cornwall and Brittany, in the name of Hoel, which is an originator of Howell, and the 9thC had Hoel kings in all three.

    The Aberfraw dynasty lasted longest in Wales,
    until Lord Rhys (Rees) was downgraded to Lord! Actually it is not that easy because
    Princess Nest, Gerald Cambrensis 1st cousin,
    was Cambro-Norman; they both were, so perhaps the Cambro element within their genes were actually Flemish ones rather than Danish Viking.

    Manorbier, a little jewel of a castle home near Pembroke, was his domain.

    I should read his jorneys in more detail. I have got it, but only took in the Cambro-Norman Conquest of Kilkenny, which became the
    domains of their descendants Hayle, Hoyle, Houlden, Welsh(Castle Hayle, Kilkenny)

  12. Gareth Howell
    22/12/2011 at 6:51 am

    I might add that the Ceylonese people of Ceylon, the Catholic Christians of the country consider themselves to be Aryan stock,from Europe, completely out of kilter with, as you say, an indigenous (and might I say, fine) people dating back to times immemorial.

    The physiognomical differences are instantly recognisable, as they are of some Norman stock people in the West county ,and Wales, even now.

  13. Frank W. Summers III
    23/12/2011 at 2:08 pm

    To All,
    Is not our moral duty clear?

    Send the aboriginal American populations back to North east Asia. Send the Welsh back to Lebanon and Normandy and Belgium. Send the Belgians back to East Holland and then to central Europe. Send the White Russians to Scandinavia. Send the Bits back to Germany, Brittany, Denmark, and spots as far East as Turkey in some cases. Send most of the Germans East of the vast plains East of Europe and then once the heave driven out the peoples there they can go back to Northern Europe.

    It may take time to do all this but surely justice requires it. I believe there most be at least on person in Israel whose Ancestor sold Abraham the Oak of Mamre and who have not moved much since then. He should probably own the whole lot outright.

  14. Senex
    24/12/2011 at 4:05 pm

    Well Frank you seem to be getting the idea but there is one overriding problem. The countries you mention did not necessarily exist in temporal terms at the time of migration. If one could do as you suggest the right to live in any given region would be central. So what stops the Flemish or say the Russ demanding relocation rights to the Low Countries or Scandinavia?

    May I suggest that the rights of ‘Jus Soli’ are why this could never happen? If we talk of this in Irish terms you ‘cannot’ become an Irish citizen unless your grand parents were born in Ireland. This contrasts with the US where Jus Soli rights are not necessarily a requirement of citizenship.

    The Palestinian claim to Jus Soli rights to the lands occupied by Israel is the root cause of their antagonism toward Israel. Yet, the rest of the world seems with some notable exceptions, to have settled the right to citizenship simply based upon the Jus Soli principal.

    Israel because of legacy issues cannot base citizenship solely on Jus Soli rights because of the Aliyah Process. The question for UNESCO members is do immigrants to Israel have Jus Soli rights to live there? Clearly they do not yet the world community must afford Israel, the state, time for wounds to heal.

    Israel cannot do this of itself because it is trapped by democracy and fundamental Judaism. The Aliyah has served its purpose and the state of Israel now exists. Israel needs in the short term commitment from its new arrivals until their descendants can establish Jus Soli rights. The world can provide this breathing space by removing dual citizenship from migrants wishing to take up Israeli citizenship.

    A difficulty though, both the US and Israel do not recognise Jus Soli as a principal prerequisite for citizenship. If one were to consider removing dual citizenship from Israeli passport holders one must consider doing the same to US passport holders.

    Both Israeli and US migrations patterns are similar. The US, an invented people, displaced its Native Americans to place them in disputed territories. Can we really expect any genuine sincerity from such an invented people toward another invented people, the Palistinians?

    • Twm
      28/12/2011 at 6:20 pm

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

      The early Roman example is the most obvious one, but they ended up granting citizenship of Rome to the people of the whole empire, AS DID THE BRITISH CIVIL SERVICE IN THE 1930s.
      “Jus sanguinis” causing “rivers of blood!”

      However to put it in a vulgar way, it is also a question of the fatherland and mother tongue, but the orthodox Jew has to have both in to the mists of time, as do the Latter day saints, once they have baptised all their fore fathers and mothers to the hopeful year dot.

      You may say that Orthodox Jew suffer from a threatened culture and language, and so do all ethnic minorities, far more than the Jewish people of Israel today.

      If A Welsh man’s Mother is not Welsh, he is not particularly Welsh himself, because his spoken language is not good, but if both his mum and dad are Welsh speaking then he speaks God’s language in God’s country!

      There is the added problem of Reform proselytizing Zionism, which vehemently denies the essence of the religion being the descent of BOTH Mother and father from the tribes of Israel, not just one! For them you may become a Jew. for the orthodox you either are one, or you are not.

      The same problem arose for Jesus, the son of Mary, and his Descent from David, which is maybe where I entered the conversation between Senex and Summers.

  15. Frank W. Summers III
    24/12/2011 at 10:30 pm

    Senex,

    Are you such a senex that you remember all these times? The US is a federal regime not a people. The American People is an evolving and tenuous reality which is not false. I favor a federal solution recognizing all that is real about Israeli, Hebrew and Jewish Experience and all that is real about Arab, Turkish, Egypto-Philistine, Silk-Road experience as Palestinian. I do not wish to further muddy the waters but many of the old Israeli Hebrew families who stayed either in the lands or withon a few hundreds of miles for milennia and the Palestinians inter married and interbred with an ethnic group I consider my cousins who dominated much of life much of that time — the Greeks. The web is infinite but not pointless.

    The Palestinians never established a clear right under the ottoman Turks or others which they can claim to continue and there is nothing about the British period which persons not British would not find open to much dispute.

    I am personally committed to the survival and supremacy of Israel in the region and to have such accommodations of Palestinian interests as are possible within that matrix. There is vastly more involved than the region itslef and there are no innocent parties except small children. As they grow and take their adult places they answer for adult debts and obligations.

    I do not know if you know anything about me beyond this blog but I am both serious and also one who does not claim to represent a large party position on these and related issues. Britain’s own bitterness in much of this affair is understandable but it cannot be indulged at the expense of a productive resolution.

    Lastly, I am an historian to some degree and will assure you that many trans-European migrants in many places displaced ancient societies that were highly regular and legitimate and whose claims have been deliberately obscured over time.

  16. Twm
    28/12/2011 at 6:00 pm

    “The US is a federal regime not a people.”

    I don’t know about a US citizen deprecating his own people in such a way, that may actually be mistaken. I think I see the historical point in not describing it as a “Union” for some US citizens, although by all other international standards it is one.

    “The American People is an evolving and tenuous reality which is not false.”

    In that case the EU has a future as an evolving and tenuous reality as well, and
    as a cartel of states,a supernation may well be inclined to add the extra dimension of federation in order to provide a more flexible DIS-sociation when it may be needed.

    One (London) Guardian correspondent this week headed with

    “A financial crisis is not a political crisis as well!”

    and she is right, it is not.

    “I favor a federal solution recognizing all that is real about Israeli, Hebrew and Jewish Experience and all that is real about Arab, Turkish, Egypto-Philistine, Silk-Road experience as Palestinian”

    I thank Frank for taking the time to consider
    the other Cartels in these particular regions of the World. I know that the US president does indeed spend much of his time referring to supranational geography throughout the world. It would be difficult for him to do otherwise.

    Perhaps we citizens of the European Union could spend a little more time on considering them too, instead of contemplating our own navels in the Senate called the House of Lords, and democratic Commons in such a negative way.

    We have an internal federation to consider and an external one too, A European one and a
    Scottish/English/Welsh one too, although
    Hywel (Howell) Dda’s theories of English/ Welsh integration in 945AD were pretty darned good!

    Rugby Football is such a rough sport! Cwpan Bach!

  17. Frank W. Summers III
    28/12/2011 at 9:52 pm

    Twm,

    I am very much committed in my onw slightly tortured way to the American People but I assure you we are living in a Federal regime even now which succeeded a Federal regime and whose largest war in American casualties was was against a secessionist federal regime. Our most important work of political philosophy is titled “The Federalist Papers” and there is little doubt about the whole of our governance being federal. There are spectra of Federalism and we are nearer a union in the replacement sense than the European Union I think.

  18. Senex
    30/12/2011 at 7:34 pm

    Lord Hylton: “…behaviour of Israel, which is often illegal or provocative.”

    Legality: the Gaza Blockade is regarded illegal by international law experts but no UN resolution has specifically declared the land blockade as illegal. The UN has however declared the sea blockade legal.

    Provocative: no export is being allowed through the blockade not even cut flowers. The Israeli government says this is a matter of security and as a matter of policy it does not comment on security matters.

    Provocative: Palestinian prisoners who die in Israeli prisons are buried with no identifying grave marker except a number. Relatives are not informed and no death certificate is considered for issue until the corpse has completed its sentence.

    November 10, 1975 UN Resolution 3379 is passed. The UK abstains. It affirms “any doctrine of racial differentiation or superiority is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous” It associates this with Zionism.

    In defeat the Israeli ambassador gives a robust reply and concludes by saying:

    “For us, the Jewish people, this resolution based on hatred, falsehood and arrogance, is devoid of any moral or legal value. For us, the Jewish people, this is no more than a piece of paper and we shall treat it as such.” The ambassador then proceeds to tear the piece of paper in half.

    The resolution is repealed on December 16, 1991, the only one in UN history as a precondition of Israeli participation in the ‘Madrid Peace Conference’. This changes the status of the PLO from terrorist to that of a political body.

    Consideration: under Zionism Israeli immigration resulting from the Aliyah Process is illegal under the Halakha. The exodus from Egypt brings Israel to the Promised Land but Moses is denied entry. The reason is that Moses is regarded as having lost faith in the eyes of God. The precedent set here is that not all from the Diaspora may gain entry to Israel unless it can be proven that they have kept the faith. The counter argument is that only God can make this determination.

    Available online is a collection of Library of Congress literature for most world countries including Israel and Sri Lanka. For Israel sections: Government and Politics; Political Framework is worth reading in conjunction with Israeli current affairs.

    Ref: 3379: Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_3379
    Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress
    http://countrystudies.us/

  19. Frank W. Summers III
    01/01/2012 at 9:37 pm

    Senex,
    Your analysis as always is fact-based and fairly careful. I think the theological stuff is the most disputable on its face. However, I support your calling Lord Hylton’s rhetoric to account if not necessarily the author to account for the rhetoric. Clearly you do show that the situation is not ideal as a modus vivendi for two peoples. However, Israel at this point has to deal with a situation in which every concession results in an increase of hostile pressures. The President of these United States has shown himself willing to undermine Israeli security to curry favour in the Muslim Arab power matrix. Lord Hylton and others would be well advised to remember that context of current Israeli rigidity in some behaviors.

  20. Senex
    12/01/2012 at 1:44 pm

    On the theme of ‘Country Studies: Love Israel’ something of a challenge for a gentile like myself there is a blog called the ‘The Magnes Zionist’ run by Professor Jerry Haber who lectures in Jerusalem. His blog comments are worth reading.

    Also, his views on the ‘Right of Return’ under Israeli law coincide with my own developing views that were arrived at independently. However, the view that dual citizenship should be withheld from Israeli passport holders might silence the voice of reason within Israel. Its not clear whether he is a dual national?

    I have also included a link to a Jerusalem Post report on a very recent High Court decision that has barred Palestinians married to Israelis from naturalizing.

    Ref: On the Israeli Law of Return, Part I — Israeli Neocon Arguments.
    http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2007/08/on-israeli-law-of-return-examination-of.html
    The Law of Return, Part II — What Israelis Can Learn From Germans
    http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2007/08/law-of-return-part-ii-what-israel-can.html
    Dec 1, 2012. Jerusalem Post: ‘Citizenship law decision a stain on Israeli law’
    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?ID=253281&R=R1

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