Police Bill

Lord Soley

Despite the Government defeat on a key part of the Bill we continued the debate yesterday even though the Bill has had a central part removed. An important debate took place on the relationship between local authorities and the Police. I am concerned that we will drift back to the situation that we had in the period 1960 – 1980 when any talk of close relationships between police and local councils was regarded with horror – especially by the then Conservative Government which is now asking for elected police committees – how times change!

The riots of the 1980’s were not only in areas of ethnic diversity but also in places like Meadowell in the North east. My comments in the debate draw from my experience at that time. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201011/ldhansrd/text/110518-0003.htm

4 comments for “Police Bill

  1. Bedd Gelert
    19/05/2011 at 6:57 pm

    Off-topic, but on a legal theme – do you have a comment on the apparent situation that the BBC appear to be limited from full reporting of what has happened in the House of Lords due to ‘reporting restrictions’ imposed from the courts ?

    Isn’t this a national scandal ? What will Hansard be doing about this ? Will the ‘Democracy Live’ BBC website have to stop live coverage of Parliament ?

    Well Mark D’Arcy have to be sitting there with the ‘bleep’ machine when compiling ‘Today In Parliament’ ? Will coverage of BBC Parliament include ‘quiet spots’ and ‘pixellation’ of the noble Lords’ faces so we cannot lip-read them ?

  2. MilesJSD
    milesjsd
    20/05/2011 at 9:58 am

    There are myriads of issues-of-relationship; so kindly give us a clear listing thereof;

    because, you see, Bedd is in a real sense “on topic”, because he indicates at least one strategically, probably constitutionally, relevant overarching, underpinning, or overlapping issue.

    ————–
    The failed-banker (Sir) Fred Goodwin is only one of thousands of obscenely-rich Common-Purse & Environment ‘robbers’ who gagged anybody from calling him a “Banker” and evidently also from mentioning anything he had done wrong or that was questionable of a person in his position(s), thereby killing-off both freedom-of-expression and public-ascertainment of the Truth.

    It isn’t simply having been caught having an illicit sexual affair with a female-co-worker (instead of with one’s quite comely-looking
    wife)((in the i paper today))

    it is all the other and especially bigger and overarching Issues, that are in-the-firing-line too;
    and key Biggest-Big-Issue involving relationships, of any kind whatsoever I would argue, is that of the Right of the Earth’s renewable & non-renewable ‘wealth’ to be supported, preserved and conserved;
    and ‘handcuffed’ to that would have to be the duty of every human-being to support, preserve, and conserve those Earth Lifesupports;
    and the Duty of every Account within the Civilisational Common Purse (Money) to be likewise lifesupportive (of our Earth’s Lifesupports).

    That-all should long ago have necessitated the repeal/abolition of All Privacy (privilegocratic) constitution, legislation, and practice.
    (except privacy for the Disadvantaged. Under-classed, Disabled, and Seriously-ill under certain inclement situations).

    It is an acutely real Earth-Predicament this Human-Race is trapped-within, and Causative-of, this latter very evidently by irresponsible, hedonistic, ill-disciplined, unskilful and outrightly-greedy super-drawings and givings from the Common Purse,
    which equates to super-destructivity of the Earth’s lifesupports –

    and such a Bigger-than-Big Issue is not and never should have been “Private” and aided and abetted by super-injunctions

    nor by unsafe-relationships such as the Police-and-the-Local-Council, doing ‘in-private’ win-win, but every-other-outside of such one-to-one meeting will just have to lose-out, and foot our respective bills if we go wrong –
    and foot our bills anyway !

    No; the overarching Issue is the Unsafeness of every Relationship, and of every Privacy law and practice, whereby any individual person can draw or be given from the Common Purse more than one-human-living.

    =xxxxxxx=
    0959F20May2011.JSDM.

  3. Twm O'r Nant
    20/05/2011 at 2:20 pm

    When i was on city council in the 70s the police chief attended, but so did the High Sherriff.

    That was one borough out of half a dozen district councils.

    He would not be doing that now, since there are usually at least two districts in a county, possibly four or five, merged in to one for police commissioner purposes.

  4. Lord Soley
    Lord Soley
    21/05/2011 at 1:24 pm

    The BBC can report what is said in either House – I think there was an initial uncertainty because it was unusual.

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