Three relatively straightforward questions for this week’s quiz. As usual, the first two readers to supply the correct answers will be the winners, though there will be a commendation for any reader supplying one or more correct answers. I plan shortly to publish a roll call of honour of our principal winners.
1. Who is fulfilling the role of Black Rod while Black Rod remains on sick leave?
2. Who among the present members of the House of Lords have held the position of Lord Chancellor?
3. Of the former law lords to sit in the House, who is the most senior (i.e. the longest serving)?
1. I assume it’s his deputy the Yeoman Usher, Ted Lloyd Jukes.
2. Baron Mackay of Clashfern, Baron Irvine of Lairg, Baron Falconer of Thoroton. Jack Straw and Ken Clarke are still both in the Commons.
3. Looks like a trick question. In theory it should be Lord Philips as President of the Court, but Lord Hope appears to have been elevated to Lord of Appeal in Ordinary in 1996, whereas Lord Philips was elevated in 1999. As such, I’d have to go for Lord Hope.
As an aside, the Parliament site still has Sir Michael Willcocks as Black Rod
Dave H: Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers and Lord Hope of Craighead, as Justices of the Supreme Court, do not presently sit in the House of Lords. They are excluded under the terms of the Constitutional Reform Act 2005. Once the Supreme Court came into being, those who were law lords ceased to be members of the House for the period of their service on the court.
Many thanks for your note about the Parliament website. I shall see that the relevant authorities are notified.
1. The Yeoman Usher, Ted Lloyd-Jukes
2. Lord Falconer of Thoroton, Lord Irvine of Lairg, Lord Mackay of Clashfern
3. Lord Templeman
1) The Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod
2) Three: Lord Mackay of Clashfern, Lord Falconer, Lord Irvine of Lairg
3) Lord Templeman?
1. The Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod, Ted Lloyd-Jukes
2. Lord Mackay of Clashfern, Lord Irvine of Lairg, Lord Falconer of Thoroton
3. Lord Templeman
The Yeoman Usher, Ted Lloyd Jukes who I think is a Colonel.
Falconer, Irvine of Lairg, Mackay of Clashfern
I might be misunderstanding 3). Longest serving in the House, or longest serving as a Law Lord?
If the longest serving in the House among ex Law Lords, then Lord Templeman.
If the peer who served longest as a Law Lord, then it would be Lord Hoffman if you don’t include Lord Hope of Craighead’s time in the Supreme Court.
1. The Yeoman Usher, Ted Lloyd-Jukes.
2. The Lord Mackay of Clashfern, The Lord Irvine of Lairg and The Lord Falconer of Thoroton.
3. Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers (Unfortunately I’m not sure!).
Here a follower of the Lords from Spain.
Joseph O. Martinez: Delighted to have a follower of the Lords from Spain. On Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers, see my note in response to Dave H (above). As President of the Supreme Court, Lord Phillips does not sit in the House of Lords.
1. His deputy: the Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod
2. 3: Lord Mackay of Clashfern, Lord Irvine of Lairg and Lord Falconer of Thoroton
3. Lord Hoffmann
1. The Yeoman Usher, Lt-Col Ted Lloyd-Jukes
2. Three (Falconer of Thoroton, Irvine of Lairg and Mackay of Clashfern)
3. Lord Templeman (1982)
Congratulations to Emmy and Len who were the first two to provide the correct answers.
It is indeed the Yeoman Usher, Lt-Col. Ted Lloyd-Jukes, who is carrying out Black Rod’s duties while Black Rod recovers. There are three peers presently in the House who have served as Lord Chancellor (Lord Mackay of Clashfern, Lord Irvine of Lairg, and Lord Falconer of Thoroton). And the former law lord who is the longest serving in the House is Lord Templeman; though I take Chris K’s point about length of service as a law lord, so will also accept Lord Hoffman: that does not affect the result in terms of the winners; it does, though, extend the list of those who offered correct entries. Given that, congratulations are due to all those who responded for getting either all three or at least the first two answers correct. As mentioned in response to Dave H, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers and Lord Hope of Craighead, as Justices of the Supreme Court, do not presently sit in the House of Lords.
Esoterics like your weekly Quiz, lord Norton, may have a miniscule following from amongst certain authoritarian-governance interesteds;
but so far, I’ve seen nothing that is of immediate help, nor of longer-term value, to the democratic People you are rumoured to be employed to empower and to serve.
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JSDM: The weekly blog complies with the Norton test of being concise-intelligible-educative. This is also the test I apply in assessing responses to posts.
Then someone needs to tell you that the “Norton test” fails, on both counts.
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JSDM: It would be interesting to know which, but you seem to have failed the test of counting!
Your “It would be interesting to know which” refers either to your own devised-test’s threesome (and I place them in the more sensible order they should be if they are to have any peoples’-democracy credence at all):
(1) educative
(2) intelligible
(3) concise ;
or it refers to “both counts” namely (1) your judgement of your own posting; and (2) your judgement of responses to that posting.
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What is the “test of counting” that you are not quite sure but are willing to assume that I have failed herein, please ?
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Since your “test” fails to be educative and intelligible to the democratic majority you are supposed to be serving (and in that, also educating) any conciseness it possesses fails also (unless of course you were to redirect it to some other Constituency or Market where it could succeed either in keeping with its educativity & intelligibility, or in its own separate right of concision)(in which case, however, it would still have failed in the main democratic-constituency-place that, coming from such a high-up Lord, it should be 100% educative, intelligible and concise to).
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JSDM2101Sn17Oct2010.
Dear Lord Norton
as with JSDM other rants and comments and what seems rather silly and chilish remarks you are very kind in your replies.
It seems JSDM has nothing better to do that swollen word pills….. never mind.. tolernace is always best !!