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		<title>By: Ronnie Somerville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Somerville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine  being in the House of Lords, all day every day, attendance being compulsory. Unauthorised absence means you going to prison. You have hardly any opportunity to talk to anyone else outwith the chamber. You get hours of work to do at home and at weekends. You are talked at not to. You have been stripped of your powers  to affect legislation and have NO influence over what the agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine  being in the House of Lords, all day every day, attendance being compulsory. Unauthorised absence means you going to prison. You have hardly any opportunity to talk to anyone else outwith the chamber. You get hours of work to do at home and at weekends. You are talked at not to. You have been stripped of your powers  to affect legislation and have NO influence over what the agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: jacque</title>
		<link>http://lordsoftheblog.net/2010/02/08/schoolgirls/comment-page-2/#comment-8355</link>
		<dc:creator>jacque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something ironic about a blog which includes the word &#039;diversity&#039; that is in fact very much against the idea! Diversity does not mean &#039;diverse as long as you are like me&#039; does it?

As the blogger well knows (I am assuming you do actually know something about home ed but are just pursuing your own political agenda) home educated children have large circles of friends and their parents throw themselves into ensuring they have fantastic social lives. I am not quite sure how leaving your child with the same group of children and tiny handful of adults, day in, day out for 6 years at a time amounts to mixing with a wide range of children. Do elaborate. In fact what is your optimum number of people with whom to associate regularly? You clearly have a figure in mind. Perhaps you can make that figure known and you can back it up with a piece of research and then we can all ensure that our children have that identical socical experience.

Would you say that the only way to learn about the House of Lords was to have a visit from you? Rather worrying, both in terms of what it says about the institution and indeed your view of how one learns about anything.

The fact is - and I do wish the labour party would be honest for once about this - Ed Balls and his ilk KNOW this is a way out of a failing school system for many people. You can&#039;t argue with the hard left though. They will lie and lie and lie to get their own ends.

There are people in this country who are criminals but we don&#039;t insist on searching the homes of every family lest they are concealing stolen goods.

There are many people (some in the House of Lords if the stats are realistic) whohave a sexual interest in children but we don&#039;t police everyone&#039;s homes.

If we were able to investigate everyone&#039;s computer we would catch many paedophiles. As a home educator, I would agree to that - so come on - would all MPs agree to do the same? I bet not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something ironic about a blog which includes the word &#8216;diversity&#8217; that is in fact very much against the idea! Diversity does not mean &#8216;diverse as long as you are like me&#8217; does it?</p>
<p>As the blogger well knows (I am assuming you do actually know something about home ed but are just pursuing your own political agenda) home educated children have large circles of friends and their parents throw themselves into ensuring they have fantastic social lives. I am not quite sure how leaving your child with the same group of children and tiny handful of adults, day in, day out for 6 years at a time amounts to mixing with a wide range of children. Do elaborate. In fact what is your optimum number of people with whom to associate regularly? You clearly have a figure in mind. Perhaps you can make that figure known and you can back it up with a piece of research and then we can all ensure that our children have that identical socical experience.</p>
<p>Would you say that the only way to learn about the House of Lords was to have a visit from you? Rather worrying, both in terms of what it says about the institution and indeed your view of how one learns about anything.</p>
<p>The fact is &#8211; and I do wish the labour party would be honest for once about this &#8211; Ed Balls and his ilk KNOW this is a way out of a failing school system for many people. You can&#8217;t argue with the hard left though. They will lie and lie and lie to get their own ends.</p>
<p>There are people in this country who are criminals but we don&#8217;t insist on searching the homes of every family lest they are concealing stolen goods.</p>
<p>There are many people (some in the House of Lords if the stats are realistic) whohave a sexual interest in children but we don&#8217;t police everyone&#8217;s homes.</p>
<p>If we were able to investigate everyone&#8217;s computer we would catch many paedophiles. As a home educator, I would agree to that &#8211; so come on &#8211; would all MPs agree to do the same? I bet not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://lordsoftheblog.net/2010/02/08/schoolgirls/comment-page-2/#comment-8354</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baroness
You are very much exposing your disappointing lack of knowledge of home education here in your comments.  I have one child who is home educated and one at a school so I have experience of both worlds from a parent&#039;s perspective.  I work part time as a teacher myself so know the system from the inside too.  I also went to one of the top private schools (academically) in this country followed by a degree at Oxford University so know a thing or two about &quot;good&quot; girls&#039; schools as well.  In my experience, home educated children are far more sociable than their counterparts in school who often have to &quot;mask&quot; their real personalities in order to survive/fit in.  Home educated children are generally much more open, honest and inclusive with other children, regardless of any differences between them such as age, social status etc, and their parents are extremely dedicated, loving, non-materialistic individuals.  There has been some long term research carried out I believe in Canada which shows that home educated individuals tend to be higher achievers than the average academically, are far less likely to become unemployed when adults, and are more sociable as adults.   With regard to outings/sports, my HE child has regular tennis coaching, skating lessons, (plays 3 instruments, 2 of which are at advanced level)is a member of a jazz band, social band and 2 orchestras, rock climbs, is a member of St John Ambulance, rides horses and has ridden competitively at national level, this week alone went to Warwick Castle and Go Ape on &quot;outings&quot;...This is all on top of fitting in a few GCSE&#039;s (one of which incidentally, is being taken this summer at the age of 13 with a prediction of an A star).  Plus...my HE child is very much happier and more confident now than when at school where they were regularly bullied because of a medical condition.

We get no financial help from the government to do any of these activities/tuition like schools do, but we choose to go without in order that our child can have a good education at home.

Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to carry out some research of your own into home educating families, before posting further on the subject...I know that I wish I had been lucky enough to have been educated at home...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baroness<br />
You are very much exposing your disappointing lack of knowledge of home education here in your comments.  I have one child who is home educated and one at a school so I have experience of both worlds from a parent&#8217;s perspective.  I work part time as a teacher myself so know the system from the inside too.  I also went to one of the top private schools (academically) in this country followed by a degree at Oxford University so know a thing or two about &#8220;good&#8221; girls&#8217; schools as well.  In my experience, home educated children are far more sociable than their counterparts in school who often have to &#8220;mask&#8221; their real personalities in order to survive/fit in.  Home educated children are generally much more open, honest and inclusive with other children, regardless of any differences between them such as age, social status etc, and their parents are extremely dedicated, loving, non-materialistic individuals.  There has been some long term research carried out I believe in Canada which shows that home educated individuals tend to be higher achievers than the average academically, are far less likely to become unemployed when adults, and are more sociable as adults.   With regard to outings/sports, my HE child has regular tennis coaching, skating lessons, (plays 3 instruments, 2 of which are at advanced level)is a member of a jazz band, social band and 2 orchestras, rock climbs, is a member of St John Ambulance, rides horses and has ridden competitively at national level, this week alone went to Warwick Castle and Go Ape on &#8220;outings&#8221;&#8230;This is all on top of fitting in a few GCSE&#8217;s (one of which incidentally, is being taken this summer at the age of 13 with a prediction of an A star).  Plus&#8230;my HE child is very much happier and more confident now than when at school where they were regularly bullied because of a medical condition.</p>
<p>We get no financial help from the government to do any of these activities/tuition like schools do, but we choose to go without in order that our child can have a good education at home.</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to carry out some research of your own into home educating families, before posting further on the subject&#8230;I know that I wish I had been lucky enough to have been educated at home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jenniS</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenniS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s you who needs to get out more!

You need to get out and meet some of the people whose lives you try to talk about but appear to have very little knowledge of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s you who needs to get out more!</p>
<p>You need to get out and meet some of the people whose lives you try to talk about but appear to have very little knowledge of.</p>
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		<title>By: None of this should need to be said &#171; Nineteenthly&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>None of this should need to be said &#171; Nineteenthly&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Senex</title>
		<link>http://lordsoftheblog.net/2010/02/08/schoolgirls/comment-page-2/#comment-8351</link>
		<dc:creator>Senex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baroness Deech: Is there a philosophical or legal argument to be made concerning the use of Royal Prerogative powers by government caused by the present inability of the House of Lords to have any formal role in their use?

To quote from the introduction in the pdf link below:

“These powers derive from arrangements which preceded the 1689 Declaration of Rights and have been accumulated by the government without Parliament or the people having a say.”

The point is that post 1689, the House of Lords was able to use these powers because governance was blurred in that a peer could be a Prime Minister and that there was no clear demarcation between the two houses, governance was simply governance.

The report and its origins in various Public Administration Select Committee (PASC) publications make constant reference to the word ‘Parliament’ in the use of prerogative powers when the government knows full well that after the 911 Parliament Act the House of Lords no longer had any say in their use.

We must conclude from this that Parliament is the Commons and the Commons is the &#039;Monarchy&#039; which the 1689 Declaration of Rights Act sought to tame. In this respect the House of Lords is irrelevant.

This is surely unconstitutional as the original arrangements by long standing custom and practice involved the House of Lords in the exercise of these prerogative powers; the 1911 Parliament Act in effect removed what was a constitutional freedom enjoyed by the House of Lords over many centuries.

In the 2002-2003 PASC19 report it makes an observation that seems to have gone missing from the final report: “the King (and Queen) can do no wrong (for example the Queen cannot be prosecuted in her own courts)” An oversight in the final report?

Ref: Ministry of Justice: The Governance of Britain
Review of the Executive Royal Prerogative Powers: Final Report
http://www.justice.gov.uk/about/docs/royal-prerogative.pdf
Public Administration Select Committee: PASC19; A-4
http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/public_administration_select_committee/pasc_19.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baroness Deech: Is there a philosophical or legal argument to be made concerning the use of Royal Prerogative powers by government caused by the present inability of the House of Lords to have any formal role in their use?</p>
<p>To quote from the introduction in the pdf link below:</p>
<p>“These powers derive from arrangements which preceded the 1689 Declaration of Rights and have been accumulated by the government without Parliament or the people having a say.”</p>
<p>The point is that post 1689, the House of Lords was able to use these powers because governance was blurred in that a peer could be a Prime Minister and that there was no clear demarcation between the two houses, governance was simply governance.</p>
<p>The report and its origins in various Public Administration Select Committee (PASC) publications make constant reference to the word ‘Parliament’ in the use of prerogative powers when the government knows full well that after the 911 Parliament Act the House of Lords no longer had any say in their use.</p>
<p>We must conclude from this that Parliament is the Commons and the Commons is the &#8216;Monarchy&#8217; which the 1689 Declaration of Rights Act sought to tame. In this respect the House of Lords is irrelevant.</p>
<p>This is surely unconstitutional as the original arrangements by long standing custom and practice involved the House of Lords in the exercise of these prerogative powers; the 1911 Parliament Act in effect removed what was a constitutional freedom enjoyed by the House of Lords over many centuries.</p>
<p>In the 2002-2003 PASC19 report it makes an observation that seems to have gone missing from the final report: “the King (and Queen) can do no wrong (for example the Queen cannot be prosecuted in her own courts)” An oversight in the final report?</p>
<p>Ref: Ministry of Justice: The Governance of Britain<br />
Review of the Executive Royal Prerogative Powers: Final Report<br />
<a href="http://www.justice.gov.uk/about/docs/royal-prerogative.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.justice.gov.uk/about/docs/royal-prerogative.pdf</a><br />
Public Administration Select Committee: PASC19; A-4<br />
<a href="http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/public_administration_select_committee/pasc_19.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/public_administration_select_committee/pasc_19.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://lordsoftheblog.net/2010/02/08/schoolgirls/comment-page-2/#comment-8350</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!!</description>
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		<title>By: Thecountrysfinished</title>
		<link>http://lordsoftheblog.net/2010/02/08/schoolgirls/comment-page-2/#comment-8349</link>
		<dc:creator>Thecountrysfinished</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry bud.  They are too expensive.  Home educators know the most cost effective places to obtain scientific equipment and other paraphernalia necessary.  Oh and our children get to do it rather than being &quot;protected&quot; by all the health and safety nonsense.  School closed because of snow. HAA HAA.  School open but not allowed out.  HAA HAA.  My home &quot;school&quot; remained open throughout, and they went sledging as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry bud.  They are too expensive.  Home educators know the most cost effective places to obtain scientific equipment and other paraphernalia necessary.  Oh and our children get to do it rather than being &#8220;protected&#8221; by all the health and safety nonsense.  School closed because of snow. HAA HAA.  School open but not allowed out.  HAA HAA.  My home &#8220;school&#8221; remained open throughout, and they went sledging as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t agree with your statement that my child may &quot;miss out on many advantages if they do not spend their time in the company of other schoolchildren&quot;.  Why should such advantages be only the preserve of schoolchildren?  Don&#039;t children learn to mix with others outside of school?  Can&#039;t they join sports teams?  Drama clubs?  Orchestras?  My daughter has a far fuller social life now that the highly artificial social space of school is out of the equation.  And she is now much more able to enjoy what would (within a school setting) be her extra-curricular activities.  While still finding the time to excel academically, she is rarely out of the company of other children in one arena or another.

Frankly, I worry that you have lost the historical perspective that demonstrates that for many millennia human beings were perfectly able to function in society without the &quot;advantages&quot; provided by schooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree with your statement that my child may &#8220;miss out on many advantages if they do not spend their time in the company of other schoolchildren&#8221;.  Why should such advantages be only the preserve of schoolchildren?  Don&#8217;t children learn to mix with others outside of school?  Can&#8217;t they join sports teams?  Drama clubs?  Orchestras?  My daughter has a far fuller social life now that the highly artificial social space of school is out of the equation.  And she is now much more able to enjoy what would (within a school setting) be her extra-curricular activities.  While still finding the time to excel academically, she is rarely out of the company of other children in one arena or another.</p>
<p>Frankly, I worry that you have lost the historical perspective that demonstrates that for many millennia human beings were perfectly able to function in society without the &#8220;advantages&#8221; provided by schooling.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Frenzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Frenzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the posts on this are hilarious.

One comes from a radical reactionary, right back to 1914! Even the laws that have just come on to the statute!

Abolish all laws made since 1914..... and try to carry on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the posts on this are hilarious.</p>
<p>One comes from a radical reactionary, right back to 1914! Even the laws that have just come on to the statute!</p>
<p>Abolish all laws made since 1914&#8230;.. and try to carry on!</p>
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