Comments on: Law lords on the move… http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/ Life and Work in the House of Lords Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:26:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: lordnorton http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4637 lordnorton Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:39:25 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4637 Jonathan: Thanks for that. I rest my case. Jonathan: Thanks for that. I rest my case.

]]> By: Jonathan http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4636 Jonathan Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:31:13 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4636 Sorry to dig up a two-week old post, but today the BBC had an item on the Supreme Court, with the slightly unfortunate sentence: "In this sense, the court will operate along similar lines to the US Supreme Court which, at national level, issues critical judgements from Washington on major issues, despite individual states retaining the responsibility for a lot of their local laws." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8152427.stm I think this is implying the sort of change of powers you refer to above, whereas in fact the way judgements affect lower courts will be no different from today. Sorry to dig up a two-week old post, but today the BBC had an item on the Supreme Court, with the slightly unfortunate sentence:

“In this sense, the court will operate along similar lines to the US Supreme Court which, at national level, issues critical judgements from Washington on major issues, despite individual states retaining the responsibility for a lot of their local laws.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8152427.stm

I think this is implying the sort of change of powers you refer to above, whereas in fact the way judgements affect lower courts will be no different from today.

]]> By: lordnorton http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4635 lordnorton Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:35:45 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4635 Jonathan: Thanks for your comment. Your point about a neutral SLD is a very good one. Jonathan: Thanks for your comment. Your point about a neutral SLD is a very good one.

]]> By: Jonathan http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4634 Jonathan Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:43:59 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4634 I'm sure the Supreme Court will have a .gov.uk address rather than .gov, otherwise not only will people assume it has the powers of its American counterpart, but also that it's located in America! It does seem a little odd that Parliament, the NHS, the police and the British Library have their own SLDs, yet the Supreme Court - and the royal family - do not. Perhaps we need a neutral SLD to replace .gov.uk that can be used for all these things. Maybe .adm.uk (for "admin") or something like that. Maybe the court should have been called the Little George Court, so as not to delude people as to its powers! From Jonathan (who is the top result for his name search in both google.com and .uk!) I’m sure the Supreme Court will have a .gov.uk address rather than .gov, otherwise not only will people assume it has the powers of its American counterpart, but also that it’s located in America!

It does seem a little odd that Parliament, the NHS, the police and the British Library have their own SLDs, yet the Supreme Court – and the royal family – do not. Perhaps we need a neutral SLD to replace .gov.uk that can be used for all these things. Maybe .adm.uk (for “admin”) or something like that.

Maybe the court should have been called the Little George Court, so as not to delude people as to its powers!

From Jonathan (who is the top result for his name search in both google.com and .uk!)

]]> By: lordnorton http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4633 lordnorton Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:46:38 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4633 CMetcalfe: I would add that I fully understand why the law lords were not happy with the .gov web address. The argument for making the change was to make clear the separation of powers, yet the new court was then given a government web address. CMetcalfe: I would add that I fully understand why the law lords were not happy with the .gov web address. The argument for making the change was to make clear the separation of powers, yet the new court was then given a government web address.

]]> By: lordnorton http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4632 lordnorton Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:45:08 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4632 Thanks for the responses. Liam: Thank you for that information. I should perhaps add (knowing the sort of things my friends assume about me) that I have achieved the distinction you mention without ever having Googled my own name. Bedd Gelert: I fear Matt Korris got in first with the comment I intended to make. Senex, Bedd Gelert and CMetcalfe: As you know from the post, I am not happy with the move either. It is not clear that it achieves a great deal and may create problems of its own: not only in terms of cost (litigants will pay increased fees to cover the running costs) but also in terms of popular misunderstanding - the danger is that people will make the assumption, quite naturally, that the Supreme Court has powers similar to its American namesake. I have been struck by the number of people who have assumed that the move from the House of Lords to the Supreme Court entails a significant change in powers. Thanks for the responses. Liam: Thank you for that information. I should perhaps add (knowing the sort of things my friends assume about me) that I have achieved the distinction you mention without ever having Googled my own name.

Bedd Gelert: I fear Matt Korris got in first with the comment I intended to make.

Senex, Bedd Gelert and CMetcalfe: As you know from the post, I am not happy with the move either. It is not clear that it achieves a great deal and may create problems of its own: not only in terms of cost (litigants will pay increased fees to cover the running costs) but also in terms of popular misunderstanding – the danger is that people will make the assumption, quite naturally, that the Supreme Court has powers similar to its American namesake. I have been struck by the number of people who have assumed that the move from the House of Lords to the Supreme Court entails a significant change in powers.

]]> By: Bedd Gelert http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4631 Bedd Gelert Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:46:30 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4631 Or perhaps he his hoping that they will be able to remove some of the dregs they have been lumbered with recently, and remove the detritus when they leave... As for the fatuous title of 'Supreme Court', one suspects this is just more evidence of New Labour politicians spending far too much time watching DVD boxed sets of the 'West Wing'.. Or perhaps he his hoping that they will be able to remove some of the dregs they have been lumbered with recently, and remove the detritus when they leave…

As for the fatuous title of ‘Supreme Court’, one suspects this is just more evidence of New Labour politicians spending far too much time watching DVD boxed sets of the ‘West Wing’..

]]> By: CMetcalfe http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4630 CMetcalfe Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:07:30 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4630 So the Law Lords weren't happy with their new address of Little George Street [they are asking the Royal Mail to create 1 Parliament Square], they werent happy with their .gov web address, and several of them werent persuaded of the need to move in any event. They don't sound like happy campers to me. So the Law Lords weren’t happy with their new address of Little George Street [they are asking the Royal Mail to create 1 Parliament Square], they werent happy with their .gov web address, and several of them werent persuaded of the need to move in any event.

They don’t sound like happy campers to me.

]]> By: Matt Korris http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4629 Matt Korris Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:08:22 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4629 Perhpas Lord Norton was comparing the Law Lords to fine vintage wine... Matt Korris Hansard Society Perhpas Lord Norton was comparing the Law Lords to fine vintage wine…

Matt Korris
Hansard Society

]]> By: Bedd Gelert http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/07/02/law-lords-on-the-move/comment-page-1/#comment-4628 Bedd Gelert Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:34:44 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.net/?p=2957#comment-4628 Another fan of Jack Straw.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/02/ronnie-biggs-jack-straw "the law lords will have decanted the building.." - Surely 'decamped from the building ? Oh well, you know best. Another fan of Jack Straw..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/02/ronnie-biggs-jack-straw

“the law lords will have decanted the building..” – Surely ‘decamped from the building ? Oh well, you know best.

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