Comments on: Easter recess http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/04/03/easter-recess/ Life and Work in the House of Lords Tue, 22 May 2012 14:00:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Thomas http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/04/03/easter-recess/comment-page-1/#comment-3744 Thomas Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:37:10 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.wordpress.com/?p=2221#comment-3744 > If measure passes into law and the judges throw it out then its all the evil judges fault, I guess that is what the Sun will write, and for a lot of people that alone matters. I always thought it was a sign of badly written law if it does not stand in court, but I understand that there are several sides to this. It is just a shame that this important area is turned into such a mine field for everybody involved. Good job prospects for lawyers, I guess :-( > If measure passes into law and the judges throw it out then its all the evil judges fault,

I guess that is what the Sun will write, and for a lot of people that alone matters. I always thought it was a sign of badly written law if it does not stand in court, but I understand that there are several sides to this. It is just a shame that this important area is turned into such a mine field for everybody involved. Good job prospects for lawyers, I guess :-(

]]> By: Croft http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/04/03/easter-recess/comment-page-1/#comment-3743 Croft Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:08:48 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.wordpress.com/?p=2221#comment-3743 Thomas: When the government bring in a bill with (insert megalomaniac power of your own choice) and unreasonable/unlawful consequences it is often based on a win/win assumption. If the opposition oppose it they are 'soft on terror', if they defeat it then the next terrorist incident will be blamed on the opposition - irrespective of if the law change would have made a difference - and the spin will say it proves they are soft on terror and can't be trusted to government the country. If measure passes into law and the judges throw it out then its all the evil judges fault, the next terrorist incident is their and the opposition's fault and only the government can protect the people. Cynical but practical politics I suggest. Thomas: When the government bring in a bill with (insert megalomaniac power of your own choice) and unreasonable/unlawful consequences it is often based on a win/win assumption. If the opposition oppose it they are ‘soft on terror’, if they defeat it then the next terrorist incident will be blamed on the opposition – irrespective of if the law change would have made a difference – and the spin will say it proves they are soft on terror and can’t be trusted to government the country. If measure passes into law and the judges throw it out then its all the evil judges fault, the next terrorist incident is their and the opposition’s fault and only the government can protect the people. Cynical but practical politics I suggest.

]]> By: Thomas http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/04/03/easter-recess/comment-page-1/#comment-3742 Thomas Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:26:43 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.wordpress.com/?p=2221#comment-3742 Indeed, that is a lot of legislation. Some of it may be quite useful, but I do not believe that it is all necessary for the UK. Of course the other question is necessary for which purpose - maybe most bills are designed to help the political survival of the government rather than serve the interests of the UK. Still, I wonder whether the battles are chosen well. The Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill has suffered a number of defeats already, but I even so I would be very surprised if everything in it will stand in court. It really does make me wonder whether the aim is for quantity rather than quality. Indeed, that is a lot of legislation. Some of it may be quite useful, but I do not believe that it is all necessary for the UK. Of course the other question is necessary for which purpose – maybe most bills are designed to help the political survival of the government rather than serve the interests of the UK.

Still, I wonder whether the battles are chosen well. The Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill has suffered a number of defeats already, but I even so I would be very surprised if everything in it will stand in court. It really does make me wonder whether the aim is for quantity rather than quality.

]]> By: Senex http://lordsoftheblog.net/2009/04/03/easter-recess/comment-page-1/#comment-3741 Senex Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:45:49 +0000 http://lordsoftheblog.wordpress.com/?p=2221#comment-3741 When I mentioned relational blocks and how they interrelate in acts or bills I wanted to see if you had awareness of recent research in computerised artificial intelligence (AI) and the law. Your answer left me unsure? I thought you might find these references worth browsing. The house or Hansard might benefit by seeking funding, or to fund, doctorate work on the use of AI in Parliament with a view to facilitating origination or scrutiny. Computerisation also raises some constitutional issues. It might act to protect people from law enforcement when a machine has notified a person of a default of contract and the notification was not signed or authorised by a person. The scope here seems to be a broad one. Search on ‘artificial intelligence and law’ Ref: Alan L Tyree, Online Papers http://austlii.edu.au/~alan/ai.html University of Texas at Austin: Legal Applications of Artificial Intelligence http://www.gslis.utexas.edu/~palmquis/courses/project98/ailaw/ailaw.htm When I mentioned relational blocks and how they interrelate in acts or bills I wanted to see if you had awareness of recent research in computerised artificial intelligence (AI) and the law. Your answer left me unsure?

I thought you might find these references worth browsing. The house or Hansard might benefit by seeking funding, or to fund, doctorate work on the use of AI in Parliament with a view to facilitating origination or scrutiny.

Computerisation also raises some constitutional issues. It might act to protect people from law enforcement when a machine has notified a person of a default of contract and the notification was not signed or authorised by a person. The scope here seems to be a broad one.

Search on ‘artificial intelligence and law’

Ref: Alan L Tyree, Online Papers
http://austlii.edu.au/~alan/ai.html
University of Texas at Austin: Legal Applications of Artificial Intelligence
http://www.gslis.utexas.edu/~palmquis/courses/project98/ailaw/ailaw.htm

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